"This modern age so full of grief. I've turned away from it's belief.
I watch society disagrees. And it just looks like one big mess. I can't
believe the things I hear or see. In this world there's no remorse.
Now's the time we must change our course. Those of us who've seen
*he way, must stand and fight for a brighter day." Age Of Quarrel
Inside this issue:
Death Is Not Glamorous. Affirmation. Sunrise.
Crucial Response Records. Forced Forward. Thoughts.
Cro~Mags "Age Of Quarrel". Columns. Reviews.
Hi. This is Stop, Look & Listen number 3.
There were definitely too many words in the introduction to the last issue, so
this time I decided to keep it short.
Well many things have changed for me in the recent months. I had a lot of
spare time last year so 1 could just sit down and write the first two issues,
whereas today the priorities have changed a little bit. I have had very little
time for anything private or not work related. Still, "Stop, Look & Listen"
remains very much on my mind, but there was not that much time for actually
transferring it by using computer keyboard. In the past I could allow myself
lots of time for typing and editing in front of the screen, today it's more about
writing random notes on pieces of paper and carrying it in pockets until I
finally have a moment to collect them, put them together and make sure they
really represent what I want to say. That's the way this issue was done and I
hope the damage isn't too drastic. Change of continent/country and available
choices caused changes in the layout, size and printing method for this issue so
it seems like it's all gonna look different. Whatever way it looks I hope it's
going to be a progression from the last issue and you will find something good
on these pages. I didn't get some stuff I wanted to have in this issue, and then
everything got delayed due to that. But still I think there are some pretty awe-
some people in this one with some good things to say. Okay, I suppose that
there may be some brave or controversial statements on a few of these pages,
but it's only to represent people's ides and see how we feel about this. After
all this is suppose to be challenging and encouraging your own opinions.
Besides lack of time, it's still the same struggle with own frustrations and
trying to be a bit more creative and aware of what's going on around. It's
really great to be getting feedback, so I'd like to thank very much
everyone who has written after checking out the first two issues.
Sometimes it really surprises me how enjoyable some of you have
found this zine and it surely humbles as well as inspires ideas j
for the future issues. All I can say is thank you for giving it a
chance, reading and finding time to share.
This issue is dedicated to all the disconnected who try to
connect with the others together creating this community.
Thank you all. Until the next issue.. .Keep Your Eyes Open.
issue would have not been possible without kindness
of the following:
Christian & Death Is Not Glamorous, Peter & Crucial Re-
sponse Records, Dave & Affirmation, John McKaig, Pat &
Sunrise, Vic DiCara, Jasper/A Step Apart, Jason Kolins
XXX, Rich Miles. Thank you so much.
Extra thanks goes to Pressure Rising for recording awesome
demo and giving me permission to copy it and attach to the
first hundred copies of this issue. Check them out :
www. my space, com/pressurerisinghc
Thank you as well for your help and dedicated spirit:
Forced Forward, 108, Erik Anarchy & Soulfire, Adam/
Revelation Records, awesome Luke Wolagiewicz, Dziki,
Pawel, Patrycja Gagan, The Essence & Last Item, Robert &
Abandon Ship, Nico & Sailin On Zine, Robert/Collapse
Records, Apostolis (Greece), Ronald/NJW Records, Franke/
Crucial Attack Distro, Willxxx, Shawn & Stake Out Distro,
Jan & Capeet Distro, Pete/Courage To Care, Diogo/Wake
Up And Live Zine, Gather, Pauley (Jax).
Photo credits for this issue include:
Luke Wolagiewicz, Robbie Redcheeks, Patrycja Gagan,
Jase EdgeJedi, Death Is Not Glamorous & friends, Affirma-
tion & friends, Peter/CxR Records, www.cromags.com,
Graphics in this issue:
Dziki has been very kind and allowed me to use his draw-
ings on this page (right corner) as well as page 8 and the last
one with SL&L logo. Thank you !
Special thanks to my wife Lauren for making it possible too.
"Did you ever question any of the things they thought while you
were at school. And did you ever question "Oh my teacher, why
do you take me for a fool?". When you are all alone, you'll search
for love but theyll have none. This is the seed that they have
sewn. Don't be afraid, a better place has yet to come. And when
they won't teach or reach or feed you and they do is leave you,
deceive you. Be true to yourself and
save your mind. Lesson for the young.
So now let's fly away into the light of a
brand new sun. The time has come.
r We'll meditate, communicate, escalate,
v R\ Don't be late. We just can't wait to liber-
^^^ ^^h\^ '• ate tms human race. Go! Rise up, you
got to rise. Rise up you, wake up and
rise. Don't let them to take away your
culture. Don't let them to take away
your future. Rise up. You got to rise."
"Rise" Bad Brains
Without communication this is one sided experience. Feel free to get in touch:
AIM; ROB CONFRONT
Please feel free to visit the website that has some stuff from the zine, live
recordings from some Hard Core classic bands as well as new demos from
young bands. . . Don't forget to drop a line in the guestbook !
There is also Inside Out profile that I have created, where you can find demo
recordings etc. I'm looking for any old stuff that was printed about this band,
so if you have any interviews or show reviews please get in touch!
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"Hardcore is in a confusing state right now. Bands and people present themselves as being part of the
hardcore scene when they are not. Corporations and record labels that are not hardcore try and present
themselves as if they are a part of the underground, but all they do is what amounts to a co-opting of the
surface, style aspects of what they think is our culture, all done with the intent of destroying it. Much of
what is said about what hardcore is or isn't needs to be challenged, including what I and the bands say
here tonight. This has to be done, because this culture has to be a living, evolving thing, open to honest,
constructive criticism. We conduct this critique in order to bring things into the light, and because we
need to do this in order to take possession of everything that happens here. This challenge to what is said
by me and these bands here tonight also has to be done because this culture that we have built is under
attack by people who will do anything to keep us from questioning and critiquing that very culture. They
attack it because they are uncreative and uninspired parasites, and they need us in order to define their
lame attempt at self-realization.
Hardcore is ... yelling back words to a band vocalist, words very often written by a band member in a dark
corner of the room on a lonely night in a time of desperation and agony. Those words are put out there
because the world needs them, not because the world needs more entertainment. Hardcore is going-off on
the dance floor as if the music and the words are the most important thing in the world to you, and not
caring what you look like when you're doing it, and then at the end of the song you look to your friends
and give them a hug and let them know that YOU know those words and that music was just as much for
them as it was for you. Hardcore is about sticking up for your friends when they're right and when they're
innocent, and it's about challenging them and encouraging them to do the right thing when they're in the
wrong and they're the aggressor. Hardcore is about using this soapbox for saying something that the
world needs to hear, not what the world is already comfortable hearing. Hardcore is getting up here and
telling us what you think in a specific, thorough way - it's not chanting trite slogans. Hardcore is about
doing something to make this scene and this world better, not talking about doing it or whining about
what you think is wrong with it on messageboards and websites. Hardcore is about recognizing that we all
are different from the rest of the world, and that we want to keep it that way. We don't want our culture
co-opted by corporations and then sold back to us as "alternative". Hardcore is about overcoming the re-
lentless pressure of society that says that to be a man you have to show-off how hard you think you are to
your friends, and pose, and objectify women. Hardcore is about overcoming the idea that you should take
pride in your physical power and in using that power against those that you think are weaker than you.
Might doesn't make right. Hardcore is bands leaving their friends and families for months at a time and
traveling in vans all night long and eating crappy fast food and losing sleep just so that they can play to
1 00 kids so that those kids can finally know what it is to be alive, and to know what real passion and dedi-
cation is, if only for that short 30 minute set. Hardcore is about those kids that do shows on their own in
small venues and lose money every show just so that they can create an oasis of a real community in this
desert of corporate produced, packaged music product. Hardcore is about traveling with your friends to
shows so that you can show support to your brothers and sisters in cities everywhere - hardcore
is not Syracuse or NYC or Orange County or Boston or Seattle or Montreal or Philly -
"(^\D ^TjpcnpD ATT(")1M hardcore is kids everywhere who know what it is to be a part of something that is
both big and small ... big enough to include everyone who respects people on the
OF A FACE. AN IMAGE basis of their character, not by the shit that they buy and wear, and not judging
_, T^/^v r»T^ T TT ^ T r ^ them based on the body they were born with ... and small enough to ensure
f\ of fcv^, 1 /\l_,Lt, 1 v_/ Kl OfcLL/ that we remain an antidote to the vile shit that the rest of the
AND VIEWED WITH REVERENCE; world wants t0 shove down our throat "
DON'T QUESTION IT HOLD ON, HOLD ON, HOLD ON TO A
LIE. THEY ARE NOT WHO OR WHAT YOU THINK BUT I KINDA
DOUBT YOU CARE. AN EMPTY AESTHETIC IS WHAT YOU'RE
LOOKING FOR, EVEN THOUGH YOU DON'T REALIZE IT, YOU
DON'T WANT TO BE CHALLENGED. SOUL BEARING, IDEA
SHARING BUT NOTHING IS BEING SAID. AN IDEA, A BELIEF
WAS THERE BUT YOU REDUCED IT TO A TITLE, AND I NEED
SOMETHING MORE. WHERE IS THE DOUBT? WHERE IS THE
ANGER? WHERE IS OUR BLOOD? WE HAVE DEAD BLOOD."
"Dead Blood" Forced Forward
STOP, LOOK ^, LISTEN # 3
Is there any meaning behind all of this? Is there something that makes it
all different than just pointless actions and unvalued existence? Is there
anything at all?. ..I need to go and figure it out for myself. I want to find
some answers, I want to search for some understanding and introduce
something good out of this in my life. There must be something more,
otherwise it feels like nothing has any purpose and I'm just heading for
being eaten by worms when the unquestionable end comes.
Where someone finds happiness I see pain. Where I find hope someone
finds distress. We all look at the same things that may cause us to feel in
the opposite ways and often turn violent. So how is it possible to live next
to each other? More than two thousand years have proved that it isn't, or
at least not for a longer length of time when one conflict follows another
and bloodshed never ends. All that's possible is for us to open eyes and
see that others will choose to live in a different way. All that's possible is
to try to open minds and realize that other may not agree with us and ex-
press their own opinions that put a different light on things. All that may
be possible is to limit our possessiveness and greed for domination over
other's existence. One thing is for sure, we easily load guns and open
camps for victims of our visions. Whether it's in our own households or
on the international arenas, we want superiority and submission. Anything
else is just a hope and possibility of change by mending everyday life and
Not only searching for meaning and happiness, but also hoping to live
alongside others without causing amounts of pain and hatred. That's a
struggle in itself but that's what has been asked from me once I came
living into this world. That's what I have to ask from myself. . . Otherwise
it's no different than a group of dogs that just defend what's theirs and
fight anyone who comes close, at times getting to each other's throats to
gain more respect. There must be something more, there must be some-
thing that makes it different. Anything. . .
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I got their demo with a friendly note saying that if
I love Lifetime I'll like Death Is Not Glamorous.
As it happens I like Lifetime and DING remind me
of them a lot as well as maybe first Saves The
Day record. Anyway these Norwegian dudes know
exactly what 's needed to create a perfect mixture of
Hard Core Punk tunes that bring hope and bright up the
darkest moments. This band has recorded some awesome
stuff and I recommend that you check them out! If you long
for something faster and melodic, that also gives you positive
direction then Death Is Not Glamorous are here for you! They
have available demo that is going to be re-mastered and released by
State Of Mind Records. For now you can visit bands profile and
listen to what this band is about!
Christian (singer) was kind enough to
answer my questions during January and
February of this year. Thank you ! R.
My first impression of Death Is Not Glamorous is that you seem to have very positive approach to
life and relationships. Would that be true? Where does your PMA come from?
Hi! Yeah, we try to stay positive in the face of adversity. Sometimes life is full of shit, and it's hard to
keep looking up, and that's what we want to focus on in our music. It's like this: for us, a big part of hard-
core has been the positive, "get-through-everything" attitude that is implicit in the music. "They're gonna
try to drive you into the ground- Never surrender, never go down!"
In this world, it can be hard to live with your head held high, especially if you aren't into all the aspects
of society that "they" expect you to be. Shopping, getting wasted every weekend, ignoring the fucked up
shit that goes on in other, "less developed" countries, etc. I don't know, without these songs and these
words that inspire us, it would be doubly hard.
So how do you face and manage hardships and difficulties in your lives? Do you rely on reaching
out for help to others or get through it by yourselves? How important are friendships for you?
I guess we try to deal with shit ourselves, since in the end that's how you gotta go at things. But there are
always times when you need to rely on a friend, and then real, true friends are crucial. To have someone
who you know understands your shit and will be there for you is incredible, and you can't downplay that.
Can you tell me who and when started the band? What keeps Death Is Not Glamorous going?
We started from an on-the-fly suggestion. Terje, Espen, and Christian were sitting around at some trendy
fucking coffee bar, talking about how we wanted to start a punk/hardcore band that didn't all out suck
(we had a band then, but everyone was on the wrong instrument except Espen). Terje said he knew a guy
who played drums (Even from Damage Control), and that he might be interested if we told him it was an
indie rock band, so he sent him a message saying just that and he was down. Later, we got Emanuele to
join on bass, and that was great, because he is an awesome guy. And fruit. Fruit keeps us going. Also, I
think that the great reception of our demo was a definite engine for us. We heard from all over that peo-
ple were into it, and that really made us want to make more songs and keep improving. I think we've all
found an incredibly volatile outlet for energy and expression through this band, and after just a week
without practicing (let alone a month..), the itch to get back in that room with the guys and lose it is al-
Living in Oslo do you often feel alone or see other people isolated form each other, despite the fact
that it's a big capitol city? How often "the city is so cold and it's getting to your heart"?
To me (C), Oslo is a really cold city, if you subtract the people that I'm close to here. Maybe because the
architecture is fairly non-descript and bland, coupled with the cold weather and not nearly enough sun in
the winter., but I also just get this cold-shoulder feeling from the place. People hunched over with their
eyes to the ground, outside only to get from their TV to their job while making as little eye contact as
possible. That's how I feel anyway, I think a couple of the band members feel different about the city.
Espen is from here. The summer is a different story, though!
Why do you think people find it easier to just get stuck on negative aspects of life and don't try to
go forward or actually change something for better in their lives? Do you find it annoying?
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If you hate your job,
then you've gotta quit,
if you hate the city
then you've gotta split.
It's not so hard to cut
those ties and cut-
away. Just know: your
friends are always be-
hind you. Where ever
you go, they'll always
be there, like you were
always there for them,
so thank you. For
giving me hope, and
making me go head-
and all out. And some-
times it's like Blake
said (it best) when he
wrote. "Did than no
one ever live a life this
hard?". 'Cause it gets
hard, and it gets bleak,
~md sometimes you've
gotta go it alone. But
see it through, brave
the storm, and you'll
see that, come dawn,
your friends are all be-
A/hen it seems like the sun
burnt out like a light and it
seems like nothing's worth
it, remember this. When
the world weighs you down
and you're back's against
the wall, the city's so cold
and its gettin to your heart,
and suddenly its hard to
stand up tall- don't despair,
don't say you dont care,
'cause we both know you
do. Don't lose hope- get
into something fast and
drive, and dont stop until
you're outta there. And i
can tell you one thing, and
that's the sun is always
somewhere, through all the
concrete, and better days
are around just around the
bend. So don't stop, don't
even slow down, don't de-
spair when it seems unfair,
'cause thats just life. The
odds are hard and they're
always stacked against you,
but you've gotta fight, and
get through the night. Win-
dows down and go, drive
recklessly, and at at break-
neck speeds. Because you
know that youre getting out
from under these clouds.
Get to a place where smiles
mean something, and they
aren't just tired eyes and
bared teeth. Come visit me
and i'll show you the way
the sunset hits the streets.
The skyline's looking bright
and we're looking forward,
standing up to the dusk."
I find it frustrating. I can only speak from experience, but for me apathy is an easy trap to fall into. It's so
fucking easy to just "survive" in the social / geographical setting a lot of us are in.. Maybe people convince
themselves that they are content with that alone, and ignore that voice in their heads that screams for self-
improvement and making the most out of every minute of their lives. I know 1 find myself stuck too many
times, wasting my time on trivial shit when there are 100 more productive (1 hold back on using that word,
because 1 don't want to be read with the same voice as the parents that won't get off your back or the school
counselor trying to sell a lifeless career to a kid) things 1 could use my time on. Luckily, 1 have music to
kick my ass back into gear! Set your goals.
So what do you think of all this positive responses you received and many high praises after releasing
your first demo on True North? Did you expect such a good feedback?
AWESOME. We are so psyched about how many people let us know how much they liked the demo, from
around here and all over the world. It's such a great feeling to know that our music makes people happy and
pumped and feel alive. And it blindsided us, too. We liked it, of course, but we had no idea
that so many other people would as well. Even's the only guy who's been
in a "real" band before, so this is., beyond!
Can you say something more about your plans
of re-releasing this demo with State Of Mind?
Are you excited to be on label that actually is
not from Europe, but is based in the US?
State of Mind is remastering the demo and releasing
it as an EP. They asked us if we were interested, and
we thought it would be cool to do, since more people
could hear it that way. They seem like really cool
guys and we're happy to be working with them. Hope-
fully a few more kids will hear the demo (EP) this way
How often do you get to play shows and what has
been the most memorable one so far? Have you
toured or do you have any plans to do so?
We've started to play a lot these days, which is awesome.,
it's hard to say how often, but we usually don't get more
than a couple practices in before the next date. I'm not sure
what the other guys think, but the most memorial shows for
me were our first (in Oslo with Funeral Diner and a few
other bands at a day-long festival), and our latest in Sta- ^^^^^""~ vanger (my
sorta-hometown- it was great because there were so many kids I knew and it was our first
show outta Oslo., and the drive was almost better than the show!). But that two-show weekend is the only
touring we've done so far. We are currently planning a couple mini-tours this summer, so hopefully we'll
come to your town. We're playing at Light the Fuse Fest in Holland at the end of May, so we are making a
week (give or take) out of that. We also really want to get to the UK, probably in conjunction with the 7"
we're putting out with Dead And Gone, so that's gonna happen. I say bring it on, but I guess I have the least
work delegated to me, in that Even's the guy with the tour planning experience and only him and Emanuele
have drivers' liscenses... I just bring the pillow.
Are there any issues that are important to you as a band, but you haven't written about yet in your
songs? What are the things that concern/make you happy the most?
We're all vegetarian, and even though it's almost a cliche in our hardcore niche, we take it seriously and it
would be cool to have a song about that. T find it difficult to write political songs when so much has already
been said in such a poignant way, so far we haven't had any of those either. But don't get us wrong, we
have opinions and we're not in step with most of the shit going on. Racism and prejudice, corporate control,
lying political puppets that start wars on false pretenses and then change them when they are proven wrong,
the fact that people are still sleeping on the fucking Kyoto agreement, exclusion., the way that these days,
inadvertently supporting an idea or establishment that you dont want to support is almost unavoidable., the
list goes on and fucking on. We like simple things. Swimming in the ocean and stuff. Eating pineapple.
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What made you to become vegetarian? How in your view it benefits you living a vegetarian way?
A few of the guys have been vegetarian/vegan for a long time, I don't think Even has touched the shit for
like 13 years. I became vegetarian, then vegan (not just for crustpunx!) like 2-3 years ago after realizing
how terrible our society treats animals (and a healthy dose of pro-vegetarian punkrock and hardcore songs
on the way home from school every day)., and it was a lot easier and more rewarding than I had thought.
For one thing, 1 feel like there's one count of hypocrisy weighing down my mind, in that I believe firmly
that the way we treat animals now is wrong, and 1 can't let myself participate directly or indirectly in their
treatment. I also feel a hell of a lot healthier being vegan than when 1 ate lots of greasy burgers and fried
eggs., so.. I think changing your diet so drastically to accommodate a cruelty-free lifestyle gets you more
interested in nutrition in general, the various sources of proteins, minerals, and vitamins and stuff like that.
Mix it up with some exercise
and a lot of activity (and a cup of coffee) and I feel a lot more energy in
which is awesome. Can't get enough!
ITS (ALMOST) 2008 AND THE PEOPLE CONTINUE TO EDU-
CATE, THEMSELVES, THEIR FRIENDS, THEIR FAMILIES,
AND EVERY DAY WE HAVE A MORE CONSCIOUS CARING
SOCIETY. ARE YOU WITH ME?
Are there any records/bands that caught your attention re-
cently? What do you think of the present condition of Hard
The hardcore scene, in Scandinavia especially, is awesome right
now.. We have a lot of great bands out of Norway (Soulfire,
Damage Control, Crucial Changes) and Sweden (Another Year,
Break It Up, The Kind That Kills) doing they're thing, a lot of
awesome zines coming out, and shows are usually well-attended
and totally posi.
Lately, besides the bands mentioned already, I've been listening
to the Shook Ones, Nothing Done, Sinking Ships, Iron Boots,
Crunch Time, Propagandhi, Fucked Up, The First Step,
Charge- and always a lot of older bands. Texas is the Reason.
If there was a one thing that you would like people
to know or understand about Death Is Not
Glamorous, what would that be and why?
"Hardcore is not a background beat for you to move your dancing feet, it's feeling, living,
breathing- it's the life for those who love living. It's outrage, energy, compassion- not hate, not
violence or fashion." Crucial words.
Thanks a lot for doing the interview!
No problem. Thank YOU! Yo, watch out for an upcoming 7" on Dead and Gone with our name on it!
That should be awesome!
Oslo] IhardI [core
DEATH IS NOT GLAMOROUS: Even Skar, Hauchs gt. 6b, 0175 Oslo, Norway
/e've got strong
bones and thick skin,
encasing hearts full of
hope. Minds to fight
with, stronger than any
fist. Good friends, good
times, and wide smiles-
we've got that PMA.
Think you can take this
away? Think you can
rain on this parade?
Think again, we'll keep
right on marching,
playing hard, keep
screaming, we'll keep
moving, we're not giv-
ing in. We may not be
rich, but we've got
more than most, and
we're more than con-
tent with "discontent".
Bonds, like iron chains,
tested in fire and
fights, they won't break
- and we won't let
them, we keep them
oiled, they won't wear
down, and you won't
ever wear us down."
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Living to work, working to live, slowly slaving to make a buck..
So where do we fit with our lives? At a certain age I have been
asked what am I going to do with my adult life and what do I see
myself doing to earn money that would allow me to stay alive or
even get some cheap pleasures, that would satisfy my lowest
needs? Well, as confused as I was I chose something I was not
interested in at all and it turned into 5 years of chaos fueled by
ongoing frustrations. Easy to follow somebody's suggestion, afraid
to disappoint, accepting what's been put in front of me as the best
solution for my life. But how misguiding was it for my own self?
Eventually I have made the decision for myself and chose some-
thing that allowed me to be more or less happy and not hating my
life because I hate my job. That caused grim expressions on some
faces but well, after all it's my life and it's mine to do something
with it. How much of your life do you feel like is actually yours?
Do you have freedom to make a choice regarding what are you
going to do with it? So many times we are put under pressure,
presented with a narrow choice framed into the convenient picture
and made to feel like we are in control, because we can pick from
whatever it's being offered to us and hopefully we would accept,
in order to secure that the wheels in the machine will keep spin-
"Who wants to live when to live is to slave?
Breaking their backs just to see another day.
Wlio wants to live when to live when to live is to slave?
Killing themselves to find another way.
Trapped in the cell of a nine to five,
can they ever say they 're really alive? "
Lion Of Judah "Trapped"
We may never get on the streets to burn some cars, we may never
scream at the top of our lungs holding a banner in our hands, we
may think that we never care for what society does and therefore
we are not guilty of anything... But still decisions we make as
consumers can be the most political or influential in our day to day
life. The system and market are screwed up enough and tangled up
that it's almost impossible to live in this society and not to support
greedy corporations that profit from human exploitation (well,
which ones don't?). We can try hard, but in one way or another
we'll keep marking our banknotes with somebody's misery caused
by profits going into companies bank accounts. Does it mean that
we should stop caring and just let it go?
Well, I think it's still important that we educate ourselves and try
to become as conscious as we can in regard to the products we
buy. Like I said it seems like it's impossible to live completely free
of others "slave" labor, but its worth to try to minimize it and be-
come more aware of where our money goes to and who profits
from our purchases. After all we are all paying and our most di-
rect way of voicing opinion can be by supporting or avoiding cer-
"What you consume is your only true protest,
each dollar you spend supports what you detest..
Morning Again "Martyr"
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FRUIT OF OUR NATIONS LABOR
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Rich Miles on the lyrics that are going to appear on their debut record
/ have asked Rich if he would like to say something more about his lyrics, especially these that are gonna
be on their debut LP. He agreed and my role was immediately limited to mostly listening. I don 't know if
you should consider this as "explanations " to Forced Forwards ' lyrics, I think it 's more about what emo-
tions are behind them, what circumstances surround them and what have they enabled the band to ex-
press. Their CD/LP will be out in March on Collapse Records and I highly recommend this material if
you miss bands like Ressurection/Threadbare, and search for awesome lyrical content that is both per-
sonal and socially conscious... R.
It's essentially an indictment of a culture that I feel is sick and on
the verge of death due to our uncaring and selfish ways. I would go
so far as to say that it's an indictment of me as well, but mostly
more of a sort of assessment of a world that I see as self-destructive
and yet completely arrogant and self-congratulatory. I would also
say, that it is aimed at those who have been exposed to different
ways of thinking but still don't care. Those who know wrong from
right but still don't care and just look the other way because our
society nurtures selfishness. High School it seems to be the epitome
of cruelty to a young person who already doesn't fit in. So I saw
people who are completely materialistic and fake. Do you feel less
under "attack" today since you are older but still do not fit in? Yes.
Well, I work in an office with a Vegan office policy. So it's kinda a
shelter. In the same way, Hardcore/punk is a bit of a shelter. It's
easy to forget about how fucked up the outside world is if you only
hang out with kids and talk about how awesome the Antidote 7" is.
I would say in general, I'm much more at ease and much more com-
fortable with who I am now, though. But I do feel less under attack
in general, yes. I feel that I'm more ON attack haha!
2. End Days
It's somewhat along the same lines. We our destroying our earth and
our relationships with each other are deteriorating quickly. We can
only do that for so long before the bottom falls out, you know haha?
And I'm aware, this is something that's been happening for a LONG
time now. And it will continue. But we don't care about each other.
And that's a major problem. Forget the earth, I honestly feel our
callous nature towards one another will lead to the world's downfall
long before all the pollution from the factories and everything does.
What feeds this callous nature in your opinion? Well, I don't know...
I can't really track where it comes from. But I think that I live in a
nation where our president dresses up a lie. Any rational human
realizes that we are on another continent killing people essentially
for material desires. For Oil, essentially. And protection of this
resource that we all are "addicted" to. And this comes from George
Bush's own lips. I mean, none of us are innocent. You and I love
records. Records are made from Oil. I love travel and so do you.
That takes oil. It's sad but we're in a culture that is addicted to it.
Because we're accelerated in just about every manner one can be
accelerated, adventurous souls once had to take ships across danger-
ous seas for months at a time. Now we hop on a plane and can be
anywhere we desire in a day. I don't know. Travel is not bad. Com-
munication and art is NOT bad. What I'm talking about is so mini-
mal compared to what the true oppurtunists are killing people over.
But we as a western culture cannot stand free of blame.
3 . Empty
This is the much more personal end... We all are in love with con-
nections. At least I am. I'm in love with making some sort of bond
with any human. Whether it's on what kind of music I like, or more
romantic connections. And there is absolutely nothing wrong with
that. Love is amazing and should be. However, sometimes, we
aren't in connections with our own selves. And we don't want to be.
Perhaps, pain from our life keeps us from wanting to connect to
deeply with your self.
But it often dooms us to situations that ultimately leave us empty.
Situations where we scare a person off or we put them so high up on
a pedestal that when they don't reciprocate or show reciprocation in
the manner that you want. It ultimately knocks you down further into
depression. And you're ultimately left with a spot that you had saved
for a person or an activity or a community. To Kill the pain that you
would have to deal with if you were more in touch with yourself (MY
SELF). So this song may seem to be an attack on a person. When in
reality, it's an attack on myself. It's a song about addiction, in a way.
I'm straight edge. Some people, specifically, UC stated that Straight
Edge was "anti-obsession" and ideally, it would be.
But we all have our vices. Whether it's food, alcohol, drugs, sex, love,
whatever. I don't have that much of a foot up on anyone because of
my lifestyle! It's one of the few things healthy about me, I think. And
this song is NOT saying Love is wrong. Quite the opposite. I think it's
one of the most important things we can do is feel. Which so many of
us are afraid of. But, in the same sense, you can't expect others to be
where you're at. And when they aren't, you can't hate them for their
own issues. If anything, you should look more closely at your own
4. Dead Blood
There is often times when I'm just disgusted by the lack of passion
and the desire to play a part rather than make the music and the art a
part of ones identity and a means to express one's self. Perhaps for
some of these bands it IS a means to express themselves but I ques-
tion the genuine-ness of this because portraying an aesthetic often
seems to be much more of the objective. Once again, this is just what
I think I see and it could be wrong. This song also deals with Straight
Edge and how once again, it's something that's a positive step in
one's life to cut out things that are unnecessary and oftentimes harm-
ful but most people are far more interested in all the shit that has
come to be known with straight edge rather than the actual actions of
5. Hear Me
This song is pretty self-explanatory. It deals with frustration and com-
munication. Sometimes just wanting to be heard by one person is all-
consuming. It's not looking for an answer, it's not criticizing my
actions; it's simply dealing with the frustration of just wanting some-
one to hear what you're saying and really know what you're saying.
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"Age Of Quarrel"
I can assume what might be going through some
of you when looking at this page. Another one that
brings back something that 's just a history and
there have been more important things that hap-
pened in the recent years. ..Maybe, but this is a
tribute to something special to so many: Cro-
Mags - "Age Of Quarrel" . It's even hard to de-
scribe the influence and importance of this title in
the Hard Core scene. I think we all realize how
many times these three words are being men-
tioned by various people when asked about the
most influential Hard Core records of all times.
You may find Minor Threat, Agnostic Front, Black
Flag or Bad Brains, but you can be sure that Cro-
Mags are going to be there as well and in their
own, special way. It 's got nothing to do with any
kind of hype, because I think you either like this
band and what they stood for, or you just give
yourself a break. There 's nothing wrong with this,
and all I'm trying to say is that Cro-Mags were
one and only paving the path for so many who
followed in the decades to come. Just imagine
how vicious, rebellious and innovatory these
songs must have been in 1986 and these tracks
keep it up until today.
Well, I think at some point in the past years peo-
ple had a right to be confused about the discus-
sions that have been going on around who the
true Cro-Mags are. I think that anyone interested
could have answered these questions for them-
selves, based one their own experience with this
band and their music. For me the songs speak the
loudest and as much as I may not be able to tell
you who was right in these arguments, I can cer-
tainly tell you how I feel listening to i.e. "By My-
self and how this song helps me to get through
the hardest moments. And that 's what these next
few pages are about.
I have asked a whole bunch of people to share
their experience with this record and the impact it
has had on them, as well as the others involved in
their local scenes. I got only a few responses and I
would like to thank Jason, Vic and Jasper for their
thoughts. I'm not trying to idolize anything, but
simply present living examples of how hugely this
LP have impacted people's lives and is important
to so many. This band definitely isn 'tjust a history
since their music and message still lives on!
If you would like to write about your own experi-
ences with this record or band, please get in touch
and I will be happy to print it in the next issue.
For now, everybody, this is Cro-Mags and 'Age
Of Quarrel" 20 years later. ..R.
"Cro-ilag* ®<B<&. Wtozutp gears; Hater,"
by Jason Kolins (Burden)
I can remember back, clear as day, to when I first discovered the Cro-Mags. It was 1986,
and I was a pimply faced metal head of thirteen years old, living in the suburbs of Van-
couver, Canada, just starting junior high school. My favorite bands at that time, were
Metallica, Slayer, Anthrax, Megadeth, and Metal Church, pretty much the heaviest stuff
that my friends and I had managed to get our grubby little hands on. Once school had
started that fall, I met a bunch of kids that were full on into skateboarding, and instantly
clicked with them. I bought a board, and got right into the skating sub-culture. The skat-
ers at my school were big into music as well, and though they liked thrash and speed
Metal, they were way more into the crossover, punk and hardcore bands, that they read
about monthly, in the Pus-Zone articles in the back of Thrasher Magazine, that they
quickly turned me onto. It seemed, that for skating, only the fastest bands would do, so
everyone was always on the lookout for the newest bands. The Accused, DRI, COC,
Suicidal Tendencies, Cryptic Slaughter, SOD, Excel, Death Sentence, Minor Threat, The
Misfits, they were all popular bands of the time. One day, while hanging out, I was told
about a band called the Cro-Mags from New York City. Someone had bought their first
record, and word was spreading, that this was the best new band out there. Sure enough,
the hype was building. Thrasher was all over this record 'The Age Of Quarrel', and even
ran a short interview, with pictures of these crazy, mean looking, tattooed skinheads, I
was intrigued, and had to find a copy of this record. I managed to score a dubbed cassette
of the record from a friend, but the volume was so low, I could barely make out anything
at all, boy was I bummed out. Months later, I was watching Much Music's Pepsi Power
Hour, and after several videos of their staple metal bands, the host announced that
"coming up, was a band from New York, called the Cro-Mags, with a video from their
first album, called "We Gotta Know", I was ecstatic to say the least! As I eagerly watched
with anticipation, the video starts, the drum stick clicks, followed by the classic 'duhn,
duhn' ringing guitar chords, leading into what is undoubtedly, the heaviest song intro
ever. Meanwhile, the video continues, the camera is panning the crowd, what the heck,
where's all the long haired dudes? I've never seen anything like this before. I see a lot of
scary punks and bald guys, clips of the bands hanging out backstage, but wait... The intro
ends, the song explodes, the band is onstage going nuts, the crowd is a sea of flailing
arms and legs, while bodies fly off the stage, the band goes off, and singer is jumping
around like a maniac, man, this is nothing like the metal videos I've been watching since
I was a kid, this is pure energy! The insanity continues, where at the videos conclusion,
John Joseph does a full flip off the monitor at the front of the stage, into the crowd. What
have I just seen? Needless to say, I was absolutely blown away by what I had just wit-
nessed. In short, it was the Cro-Mags, that was the very first visualization I had of the
hardcore scene, that really opened my eyes to, and would eventually drive me, to seek out
and research hardcore, the music and the scene that would become my full musical pas-
sion in life. I would soon also be turned onto some of my other favorite HC bands
through Much Music. Agnostic Front, Bad Brains, and Sick Of It All, whose videos, also
solidified to me that hardcore, with it's stripped down musical energy, and lyrics based
on reality and personal convictions, definitely spoke and appealed to me miles more than
what metal was offering me. I was getting older, and had found something new and real,
thanks to the Cro-Mags!
As years went on, I slowly became fully immersed in hardcore, I went straight edge at
eighteen, started my first HC band in '92, put on shows, and more recently, helped start a
'zine, and sang in a straight edge band called Burden, with whom I was fortunate enough
to put out a handful of releases, and tour throughout North America and Europe. Though
the Cro-Mags weren't a straight edge band, they have always had the biggest inspiration
and influence. on me, more than any other. No one else even comes close. They are my
favorite band, and 'The Age Of Quarrel', even twenty years later, is still my favorite re-
cord ever. It is one of the few records, that still sends shivers down my spine when I hear
it. It is truly one of a kind. Through their lyrics, I learned to believe in myself, stand up
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for what I believe in, not put up with people's shit, what comes
around, goes around, and to think for myself, as well as have an open
mind, traits that quite a few people in the scene these days never
seemed to pick up on. When MySpace, the internet site, started a
music section for bands, tons of pages started popping up for old
bands, mostly done by fans themselves. I was seeing pages for a lot
of old bands, some more well known, some obscure, but it wasn't
until 1 strangely saw a page for the California band Insted, (who 1
happen to like), that I said enough is enough, and decided right there
that I had to do a tribute page for the Cro-Mags. In June 2005, The
Cro-Mags "Fan-Page Of Quarrel" was born, and nine months later,
has almost 1500 people from all over the world as 'friends. Though
1 500 may not be a huge number, it grows larger everyday, usually by
twenty to thirty people. A very cool factor about the page, and it's
friends content, is that it's not just people into hardcore, there's an
equal amount of metalheads, punks, skinheads, and even normal
people, mostly older, that sign up to be a friend of the Cro-Mags.
You can read their comments and testimonials, that attest to just how
significant and influential the Cro-Mags were, and still are in the
world of punk, hardcore and metal. They are nothing short of legen-
dary. With the twenty year anniversary of "The Age Of Quarrel"
upon us, I, amongst many, many others had been hoping that the
band members would be able to put aside their differences and do at
least one final show, but it looks as though this won't happen. I was
lucky to see the Cro-Mags live in '89, and in 1990, and it looks like I
may have to hold those memories dear, along with my old videos,
but I will always keep my fingers crossed, that I will get to see them
at least one more time down the line. Much thanks to Robert for
asking me to contribute this piece for his fanzine, and especially to
the Cro-Mags, for everything over the past twenty years, and for
giving us the best record of all time. Much respect.
Jason Kolins XXX
www. my space. com/CroMagsFanpage
Cro- jlaag "gne 0i (Buarrer
by Vic DiCara (Inside Out, 108...)
1986 was an amazing year for Hardcore punk. First there was "I
Against 1", then there was "Age of Quarrel". Again, the "Age of
Quarrel" is a snapshot of the Cro-Mags at their best moment in the
stream of time. These were some serious bad-ass motherfuckers who
took metal into New York City Hardcore (but, balanced, not over the
top like other bands have done it, or like it became on their forthcom-
ing records), and who took macho, testosterone-driven music to the
very limit that it can go to and still remain amazing, without becom-
In fact, balancing all this metal and macho was this really weird thing
called Hare Krishna. Yes, these guys who were living on the street
and beating people up were also eating vegetarian food and learning
about philosophy from the Hare Krishna temple in Brooklyn. That
brings an element of yin, of substance and gentleness into their lyrics
and subtle vibe.
This record had a huge impact on my life, resulting in me becoming
a Hare Krishna for about 10 years. The Cro-Mags were, at the time, the
white man's Bad Brains. The Bad Brains where the undisputed kings, but
how far could a white audience get into their Rastafarianism? Enter the
Cro-Mags, with the white version of Rasta: Krishna (although Krishna
himself is black, but that's another story).
Age of Quarrel opens with the most danceable hardcore punk song ever
written, "We Gotta Know." On this track drummer Mackie Jayson lays
down some serious Jazz while the guitar and bass simply pound away New
York Hardcore style creating something that got your feet taping and your
"Malfunction" took the tempo down several notches, and kept your hips
and fists moving the whole 3 plus minutes. "I just can't get through to you,
in spite of the ways I try, or any of the things that 1 do. Maybe I'd be better
off talking to a wall, because you ain't making any sense at all."
Who can forget "Hard times" with the ultra-perfect, ultra-frightening sing-
along, "Cro-Mag! Skinhead! Breakout! Now!"
And the philosophical "Life of My Own," pronouncing, "You come into
this world, with nothing except your soul. You leave this world with noth-
ing except your soul."
Age of Quarrel is the simplest way to define New York Hardcore.
'Crusty Wt\z Ikmomac'
by Jasper (A Step Apart)
Alright, once again it's one of those days. You know, when you're just sick
of seeing all the crap people pull. I know that's all very generic and very 'oh
I'm punk, it's me against the world'-ish but let me diverge on it a little more.
There are certain things that bother me that I run into almost every day. I'll
be walking around in my barrio and I'll see people making a fuss about
things that, in my opinion, are completely irrelevant.
Bragging about their new mode of transportation (be it a car, a scooter or
whatever), spending time polishing their jewellery etc. So many people
spend so much time thinking about themselves that they never stop and
think about the rest of the world. Sometimes I just want to grab them by the
throat and scream...
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'DON'T YOU KNOW WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON IN THE
REST OF THE WORLD?!'
But then I realize that they most probably don't know what's going on in
the rest of the world, even though they should.
I mean, I'm not asking for them to find a cure for AIDS or to find a solu-
tion that will unite all of mankind forever... because I know some things
just can't be done. And I know that we should not have mercy on people
that obviously have some sort of screw loose... and sometimes you just
get the urge to take justice into your own hands so you can survive out
there... just to see how far you can go. And when you face some really
tough times and you're all alone it can be a real struggle so have you
make sure that people don't walk all over you. Face it, if you want to be
treated well you have to treat others well, even though in the end all you
have is yourself when you enter this world... and it's all you have when
you leave it. It's just signs of how these days are.
It seems like most people only treat each other with respect when they
need something from the other person, it rarely happens that someone
actually does something for someone else without demanding something
in return, just because they think it's the right thing to do. Today's
'society' only supports this kind of behavior by accepting it as normal
human behavior, by saying that these things are not 'sins', by saying it's
a part of human nature and by saying that these things should be al-
lowed. Some things should NOT be allowed. And I'll be walking down
the street, thinking about all that stuff... and then I'll realize that nothing
in this world is certain. Everything is just temporary, material things,
love and hate, life and death... nothing in this world is certain...
EXCEPT THE FACT THAT THE CRO-MAGS WILL ALWAYS BE
THE HARDEST FUCKING BAND EVER.
Admit it, how can you deny that the Cro-Mags wrote the perfect sound-
track to this crazy era? Society just keeps sinking deeper and deeper in a
seemingly bottomless pit because people attach more and more value to
things like money and power and, even worse, because this sort of be-
havior is seen as 'normal'. I can accept the fact that some people that are
into hardcore have some troubles with the Cro-Mags post-AOQ but I
seriously can not understand that there are people who claim that they
love hardcore but think that Age of Quarrel sucks.
The We Gotta Know intro is one of the best intro's in hardcore history,
it's just genius in its simplicity... It's tough as nails yet there is an under-
lying groove that adds a little extra atmosphere*analyse van AOQ* Of
course, Age of Quarrel is a masterpiece from beginning to end but there
are a few songs that have always affected me more than others. Some-
how It's the Limit always gets my adrenaline flowing like crazy and I
get really nervous when I hear that song. I just imagine John Joseph
singing that song on stage and just going completely nuts and I just get
this feeling that starts in my brain and slowly spreads to my entire body
and somehow all my vital bodily functions are transformed into one
single thought: 'MOSH MOTHERFUCKER!'.
Sometimes I'll even get flashbacks to No Denial shows where they
covered It's the Limit and where Big would just lose it whilst shouting
I DON'T WANNA SEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!! Holy diver, just typ-
ing this and thinking about that song is getting me all worked up. This
one time, I was listening to the Cro-Mags in my car while waiting for a
traffic light to switch to green and It's the Limit was playing... when
the light had switched to green I couldn't pull up because my engine
had shut itself off because I had just been going off inside my car.
Another time I had to go to the hospital to have my arm checked be-
cause I had almost broken my own arm losing it to that song.
Even when it's not 'your thing' you'll have to see the genius of this
band and the later albums (unless you want to keep complaining about
all the fights within this band - fights that, in my opinion, have only
contributed to the myth of this band). Age of Quarrel is the manifest
for a bad that is not just band, but a band that has gone beyond the
borders of being a band and has transformed into something mythical
that is almost religious to some people (including me). By dismissing
the later albums as 'shitty metal' the essence of the lyrics of those later
albums is completely lost. The lyrics on Age of Quarrel mostly deal
with how hard life on these streets was (and face it, the Cro-Mags are
one of the few bands that get away with it because those guys actually
did live on the streets) but you can find a hint in the lyrical direction of
things to come in songs like 'Seekers of the Truth'.
The second album also starts with a majestic drum intro. Sadly by this
time Mackie has left the band but Pete Hines does a pretty good job
kicking you right in the face with his drumming. Best Wishes also
makes it clear that this band has more to them than catchy songs and
tough lyrics because here the band also sings about a subject like vege-
tarianism. Once more their views concerning society are expressed but
in a different way than before, the lyrics are not just about the struggle
to survive on the streets but they deal with people's motivations for
their actions and how you can give a positive impulse to your own life.
If Harley sang like the way he sings on Revenge then this would have
been without a doubt my favorite Cro-Mags album, even though I
prefer John Joseph's vocals. A lot of people that are into Age of Quar-
rel also dig Best Wishes but most people leave it at that... and that's
where they're really missing out on something.
Musically, Alpha Omega is definitely the Cro-Mags' masterpiece with
amazing songs like Changes, The Other Side of Madness and the eight
minute long epic Apocalypse Now (the live version on Hard Times in
an Age of Quarrel is even better... APOCALYPSE NOW MOTHER-
FUCKER!. JJ and Harley both have vocal duties on this album which
makes it extra interesting. The lyrics are mostly a continuation of those
on Best Wishes but they also show some introspective on the minds of
both of these intriguing front men.
Near Death Experience is a pretty big letdown for a lot of kids because
they think it's 'just a boring hardrock album'. The same people proba-
bly think Danzig sucks compared to the Misfits. What the hell do they
know anyway? I think every single on of these records is pure genius
although I have to admit that it took me a while to truly appreciate
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NDE, possibly because the production is shitty compared to BW and AOQ.
I had to get used to the punky songs on Revenge but not because they're bad...
it's just because the White Devil songs on that album are so much better!
Harley's vocals sound better than ever and Rocky George plays some pretty
amazing solos. It's a good record, but it's still a step down from Near Death
About Harley and JJ... I've seen them both as frontmen and although I've
probably seen the Mags with JJ a lot later than some of the crucial geriatrics that
doesn't affect the fact that he was simply the best frontman that I have ever seen
in any band whatsoever. Harley is a great frontman and has definitely got a
great voice but JJ has something that Harley lacks and that is Charisma. Yes, I
write it with a capital C because he's got truckloads of it. Harley is fucking in-
sane and it's great to see him go wild on stage... but John Joseph doesn't even
need that. He's got motherfucking Charisma. Charisma that will not only make
you respect him but that will make you want to kneel down and pay respect to
There isn't a single band that I listen to as often as the Cro-Mags (although In-
tegrity, Danzig and Black Sabbath come close) and no matter how often I hear
their music it never bores me. Even when I feel completely beat and tired, fuck
it, the Cro-Mags always bring me up again. It's hard to describe what it feels
like to truly LOVE a band, love the music etc. so I'm not even going to try. The
only thing I know is that there is nothing in this world that can give me the same
feeling as this band's music. Call it pathetic, call it exaggarating, call it posing, I
don't give a fuck because I believe that it is a privilege that something simple
like the music of a band can give me this amazing feeling.
As for the best album by the Mags... It's difficult to say. AOQ, B W and AO are
almost too different to be able to truly compare them to each other but I have to
admit that I listen to BW and AO more often than I listen to AOQ... but that
might just be because I've already heard AOQ about 10000 times. I'm not really
sure. It's difficult to explain but sometimes I just have a craving for those
hardrock grooves that the later songs have. But hey, if I had to make a tape for a
deserted island side A would contain Age of Quarrel and side B would probably
have Danzig's Lucifuge on it. It all depends on my mood I guess and that's the
beauty of the Cro-Mags, they've got something for every mood.
I hope 2006 will be the year where it becomes clear that people that claim they
love hardcore but don't like the Cro-Mags should not have a place in this scene.
It think it's for the best if we take the first step by saying 'You're into hardcore
but you don't like the Cro-Mags? That's not possible'. Jasper
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"Fightin it's such a struggle and
I got so far, Got so far to go
Don't want to except no answers
But I ain't got nothing,
Got nothing to show, It's such a struggle
but I gotta do it by myself
Can't except no logic so
I gotta do it by myself
Such a lonely path but I can't turn my back
Can't turn my back right now
See I got a role to play
And I gotta fill it, gotta fill it somehow
I set myself on this path and now
Now it's just too late I'd put it all aside
but you see this madness just won't wait
Talk nice things but I see I'm really
I'm really overflowing with hate
I'm talkin, I'm talkin but
I never seem to motivate
The answers you say they're outta reach
But first you gotta learn
and then only can you teach
You say I'm insecure but
ain't you scared of death,
Cause everyone's grabbing,
"Signs of the times, holding for their
They're all around us final breath."
No one will look you in the eye
you don't know who to trust
I'm lookin around me and
don't like what i see corruption all around me
Cause these, these are the signs of the times
Seems like they're losing their minds
These are the signs of the times
Do you think that we're really progressin
just seems to me like some steady regression
I'm lookin on and watchin it corrode
Gotta hold back or i'm gonna explode
Take a look at where we're going
I'm seeing the signs and what they're showing
I'm totally in disbelief of modern man
and all his grief
These are the signs of the times"
Signs Of The Times
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At Both Ends #7 -88 pages/ A4-ish
(Modern Life Is War, Paint It Black, Shellac, Bane, Regulations, This Is
This issue seems to be less packed with ads, or they are just placed in a
different way. Anyways it's good as always and 1 was looking forward to
the interview with Modern Life Is War which came out interesting. For
me one of the best things in this issue is "Issues beyond Hard Core"
which presents different problems and causes in the outside world that
are worth getting to know. It's a shame really that, like the author wrote,
the response to this poll was kind of small. Still, it's a cool idea. Besides
that you will find usual reviews, interesting columns, some more vegan
recipes (this time for your breakfast meals!), Bane tour photo story and
A Step Apart...)
lots of other stuff. And thanks for the reviews of both issues of SL&L.
promise not to bother the editors anymore haha.
www. atbothendsmagazine. com
Courage To Care # 6 - 40 pages/ A4
(LOJ, Shook Ones, Grave Mistake Records, Braindead.
This is my reason to shame as probably this zine is
one of the most important things going on in the UK
scene and I have missed all 5 previous issues. And
this is such a good read! In this issue you can find
interviews with many good bands as well as a very
thorough UK scene report (there is a lot going on in
this country!), a column on putting out a record and
tons of reviews of music and zines. Again thanks for
the SL&L review. That really made my week! Cour-
age To Care is cutn'paste and you can see that the
editors know what they are doing with their scissors.
Wherever you are from it is definitely worth check-
www. couragetocare. co. uk
You can call me a hypocrite. If asked I'd tell you how much
I'm in support of the printed zines, but so
far I have not really supported any of the zines that come
out nowadays. Well, I decided to change
it and I thought that the least I can do right now is to review
all the zines I got recently. I hope you will find something
for yourself or message me and let me know of some other
Hard Core zines that are out there, but I may not know
about. I'm sure there 's lots of going on among the zine mak-
ers and I'm always keen on checking new titles.
the interviews. If you wanna find out about Scottish HC/Punk scene do
not hesitate and find ENZK!
www. angelfire. com/wi/enzk
Get With The Program # 1 - 28 pages/A5
(Break A Sweat, By The Kids Records, Ceremony, Have Heart, Set your
Goals, When Tigers Fight)
I was looking forward to reading this zine as it has the interview with
When Tigers Fight and since I had never read anything by them I was
curious. It is pretty cool, although a bit short but it lets you find out all
the necessary things about WTF and why they are around. Apart from the
interview there is a survey on Straight Edge within today's HC scene
which came out great. I'm glad that Stevie tries to present something
more then just the regular music stuff.
www. my space, com/getwiththeprogram
One Kind Word # 1 48 pages/ A4
(+ compilation EP)
WINTER 2005 INSTED
A STEP APART
Define The Meaning # 1 36 pages/ A4-ish
(Rise Against, With Honor, Comeback Kid, Folly,
Triple Threat, Soulfire, writings, reviews...)
The name alone is really cool and I was hoping that
the content will be going along the same lines, pro-
posing something interesting! And when it arrived in
mail I wasn't disappointed, although I was expecting
more writings etc. But there are good interviews, and
I especially enjoyed reading about Triple Threat and
Soulfire. I like also reviews from shows that I wish so much I was print-
ing in this zine. I have always loved them and it's cool to see someone
doing it again. I didn't get though the way "Fashion-Core" column is
written, but whatever, I can kind of see the point. The most important
thing is that this zine has a character and reasons for staring it are very
sincere and reveal a true passion for Hard Core. That's always a high
score in my book. Really worth checking and I hope that it's not gonna
finish on this issue and Define The Meaning will be developing!
No contact provided, but I'm pretty sure they are on MySpace.
ENZK # 10 - 26 pages/ A4 (plus compilation CD)
(Allegro, I Stand Alone, Engage, Downslide, Reaching Forward, The
Fuck, the 10th issue! I hope to be able to achieve something like this one
day. ENZK is dedicated to the Scottish HC/Punk scene and presents
mostly bands from the North. They have a lot going on, that's for sure!
There is a CD that goes with this issue entitled "This Is Scotland and Not
LA" that can give you an idea what the interviewed (and many others)
bands sound like. It'd be more awesome to read more columns written by
local kids. The zine is cool anyway and you can find out a whole lot form
(Damage Control, The Defense, Force Of
Change, The Legacy, The Change, Cinder...)
This is the first issue of the zine that's coming
out of Barcelona. Even though they present
bands from all over Europe One Kind Word as
well loyally supports the local scene. It is a very
enjoyable reading and one thing that's character-
istic for me of One Kind Word are questions in
the interviews that are often long and present
editors own views before you can actually read
band's answers. This is a very cool approach
and can be really interesting. Apart form the
interviews with above bands there is a column
by Erik Anarchy (dude!), Cinder US tour report,
Barcelona scene reviews and lots of photos. The
bands that are inside are also appearing on the
7inch that comes with the zine so if you don't
know someone you can easily get an idea what
do they sound like. Keep it up!
www. barcelonahardcore. com
Plonk Zine # 1 - 12 pages/ A4
Art zine with 12 pages of drawings done by a
dude with a signature saying "Talk Seek". From that I know he's already
done some art work for a hew HC bands and they all look pretty sweet.
His stuff is black and white and mixes a few different styles. If you are
looking for someone with good skills to do covers/logos and likes for
your project then get in touch at:
Re/Fuse # 4 - 32 pages/ A3
(Ian MacKaye, Soft Pink Truth, Shikari, The Je Ne Sais Quoi, The Na-
The content of this zine is awesome as always and I love the layout. I'm
getting used to the size of Re/Fuse as I have not been really convinced to
A3 format haha! But anyway this zine/paper absolutely rules and I think
it's one of the best European things published right now. This issue fea-
tures interviews (Ian MacKaye!) as well as lots of good columns that
discuss different topics. Form politics to music, something inspirational
for everybody. Lots to read, lots to think about-that's what makes an
excellent zine in my world and Re/Fuse is definitely one of them.
www. refusefanzine. com
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Rise Above # 1 - 28 pages/ A5-ish
(Blacklisted, Iron Age, Iron Boots, Lion Of Judah)
Funny thing, when I first time saw the cover for this zine I thought it'd
be a bigger size but it came out half smaller and still looks great. Two
photos of kids stage diving and going nuts during the Underdog show
at Posi Fest'05. The zine has interviews with Iron Age and Iron Boots,
bands that are talked about in the scene a lot, but I hadn't had a chance
to read anything with them before so it was a good opportunity. Be-
sides there are Blacklisted and LOJ as well as Gorilla Biscuits reunion
pictorial and bunch of very well written musical reviews (that's the
skill I'm lacking and keep on practicing :-). Very cool debut and I
hope to read in the next issue some columns by Nick!
Sailin' On # 2 - 48 pages/A4
(Turn The Screw, New Morality, The Miracle, Rise Above, Champion,
Wow! I've been missing out on a good zine. It's the second issue and I
can't compare it to the first one since I have missed out on it, but this
is really cool. Well, it covers mostly European HC scene, which is
always good and you can read interviews with some new bands. 1
really like the idea of researching for the interviews with i.e. Betray
and tracking all the members down to interview them. It came out
interesting and has lots of stories! There are a few profiles of European
record labels as well. Anyway, pick it up! I would really like to read
some stuff by Nico who does the zine. That would be a great addition.
Still, a very good thing!
Things We Say #2—32 pages/ A4
(+ a tape with TFS, Triple Threat..)
(Damage Control, Fired Up, LOJ, Triple Threat...)
Once again I have not seen the first issue but I must admit that Things
We Say looks really good. Layout is done on a computer, but there are
lots of ideas so it's not boring or too "clean". The interviews are good,
and especially it was very cool to read something from Fired Up. Apart
from this there are pages with pictures of older or classic bands. There
is also a youth crew report that is based on a famous NY crew picture.
Zine that's definitely worth of your time and interest.
www. thingswesay. de
Voice Of A Generation #1-28 pages/ A4 (+ Birds Of A Feather EP)
(The Defense, Birds Of A Feather, columns, reviews, photos...)
1 don't think this needs any introduction. If you have not heard of this
zine yet, please check the interview with Peter form Crucial Response
Records. The editors not only have been involved in the scene for a
long time, but they are still around and try to promote what matters to
them the most in Hard Core. You can read about it in their columns
that are interesting and should give everyone an idea what this zine is
about, their reviews also clearly state what they like and what they
don't People involved in Voice Of A Generation zine as well as Birds
Of A Feather are over 30 years old, still Edge and caring about this
community. "The hardcore scene nowadays is more concerned with
records and band shirts than a message. It 's hard to break a circle.
But if enough people start to think again I'm sure we can make a
change. " Highly recommended, no doubt about it!
www. crucialresponse. de
Wake Up And Live #6-36 pages/A4
(Insted, A Step Apart, Betrayed, I Object, Soulfire, reviews, tour re-
Holy shit! The layout totally killed me. Cutn'paste style but I think lots
of thought and time went into it, as everything is arranged perfectly.
I'm really impressed! The content is awesome having good interviews
as well as interesting columns that will give you some stuff to think
about. I like the fact that this zine keeps it diverse. 1 just can't believe
again, I have missed all the past issues of Wake Up And Live and am
just catching up now. Well time to really Wake Up haha! This is a zine
to get to know and to support with all your heart as Diogo supports
your scene with all his heart and I was sorry to read that next issue
might be the last one. Crucial zine that definitely makes a difference.
Diogo Narciso, Urb Qta Pinheiro, LT 13
8005-267 Faro, Portugal
Voice Of A Generation
A Crucial Zine For Crucial Times
Whatever you can do, or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius, power, and magic in it.
Comes With BIRDS OF A FEATHER 5 SOlig 7
Hardhitting straight edge hardcore !!!
Out in October, for more info go to:
Kaisersfeld 90 - 40047 Oberhausen - Germany - www.crucialresponse.com SMMW
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demo in the last issue, hut decided 10 do on interview with tin-in to find oat more about who and why does litis h it id. I'm glad tliat . Ufirmotion is here. Dave was kind enough
to write buck to me. and him and Gaz answered my questions, ti all happened via entail during the first two months of this year. Thanks '. R.
-aditionally... Could 1
nit made you start Affir-
ivolved and how much i
this band important Tor you as a way to
Dave: Ok, well Affirmation formed offi-
cial!} ai ilic end o!"20U.i. b\ niysolf (Daie).
Gaz and Dex. '['he 3 of us had previousl)
been involved in bands together during die
mid to late 90's, and after a year or so break
decided to have a go at doing wmething
new. We unite and recorded a bunch of
songs (which ended up on the Demo) and
then hunted around for a permanent Bass
player. Luke joined shortly after wc put the
1 think as far as expressing ourselves, doing
i ho band moans we can write and play
which is important to us- traditional, last.
c hardcore influenced by such bands
as I liming I'oinl. (.'bain. Insied etc. and also
Ga/ gets to write lyrics to get whatever shit
he likes off his chest. Also s<
I've had a shitty da> or something hs great
ho able to go to a show or even practice and
ist play and forget about other stuff that may
happening in general day to day life .
heard that you don't get to play that many
shows due to other responsibilities you have, so
arc you happy in general with the way band
works? Do yuu feel satisfied with the things you
have achieved so far?
Dave: So far in the bands e\isience. we haven't
played out as much as we would have probably
liked, to date we've played
less than 20 shows. We didn't
actually start playing out until
late '04 anyway because of
not having a full line till that
lime. Then due to several
2005 turned out to be
a busy year for some of us
away from the band as well.
So apart from playing out a
little more often, I'm happy
with how things have gone to
dale, writing songs and doing
the CD with courage to care.
Also adding Luke to the band
has been good, since he's
younger than the re;
ences and ideas tu bring along, (although we have
tried our best to brainwash him with mix tapes and
such ha ha!!!)
How did you get to work with Courage To Care?
Do they have qualities you would be looking for
if choosing label to release your stuff on?
Dave: We had got a recording session planned,
originally we were going to try and do 3 songs tor a
split 7" and a couple more if time allowed, however
materialized and we managed to record 6
songs. Pete and Katie had come down to help with
back-ups on the recording and they expressed an
leasing a CD after hearing the songs.
Wc already knew the guys a little from shows and I
was impressed with the job they had done previ-
ously with their zinc and everything. We are happy
fo be on the label and with the job they have done
with putting out the CD.
What wuuld yuu say was the biggest change in
your life that you made yourself based on the
i choice? And why?
Dave: For myself! would sa\ becoming vegetarian
1998. At first 1 wasn't sure if it was for me and
thought I'd give it a try, I had been thinking a
about the lyrics to the song "Feel their pain' by
"chipping away at the foundations of what
we'd iuilt and thrown away so easily with
all our time it's not as though as we can
truly say that we tried, another chance to
turn your hack walk away and hide what
has been denied lost through tine just
empty words and lies this pain inside words
can not express this pain inside times we
spent i know i'll never forget still filled
with regret can't stop this pain inside"
How would you describe love/hate, happi-
ness/sadness based on your own experiences? Do
you struggle a tot with these mixed emotions and
Gaz: I took a lot of emotion from the fact my par-
ents got divorced, it was an unhappy time so I put a
lot of that into the songs. It was a way to get all the
feelings out it made it easier to deal with instead of
just getting angry about it. 1 think we deal with
these feelings and emotions everyday of your life it
just depends how you deal with things writing this
stuff down made it easier for me.
What arc your future plans and goals? Are you
considering writing the follow up to "Never for-
Do you have courage to care'.' Well, a couple
of people from north of England have, and they
express it with records tliev release as well as
printing a fanzine and running a distro. I think
next to Dead & Gone, Courage To Care is the
strongest and most consistent record label from
that region. So far they have re/eased 5 records
and 6 issues of their Jan zine that s being
printed under the same name, fete, who does
CTC together with Katie, was involved in the
hand 50 On Red and after their last year 's
break up he is fronting Downfall, who are fust
about to release their demo as this is being
There is online CTC store where you can get
their releases as well as lots of other Hard
Core records and .
Affirmation "What Happens Now"
o has different inllu-
Insled so I went out and
food and cookbooks etc
I'm glad I stuck with it.
"1 struggle with t
3 years later and
i caught out
e of trust" that's very honest of
you to admit. Do you often find yourselves
caught up in this situation?
Gaz: Quiet a few of the demo lyric;
when I first got introduced into hardcore. Having
so many friends that believed the same things, and
then as lime went on people moved away. Being
quite a trusting person it hurl and I wrote this Stuff
down not just about whai Iriends had done but also
about my own shortcomings.
Dave: Future plans would be to play out as much
rial and see what happens from there.
So maybe to finish with could you tell me how
did you come up with the name Affirmation?
Does it have any special meaning for you?
Gaz: We messed around w illi ideas for names for
awhile nothing stuck, I think 1 came across it in a
book liked ihe name suggested to the rest of the
guys and there you have it. There's no special
meaning as such il just seemed to work.
Thanks a lot for your time and doing this inter-
view! Do you wish to add something more?
Dave: Thanks for ihe interview, thanks lo Pete and
Kalie for the work they ha\c done with courage to
care and Affirmation, check out our CD and get in
"I feel like I have
said this a million
times before, but I'll
say it again. Start a
band or do a zine,
take some photos at
shows, do some
artwork, book a
show, help out in
some way because I
don't believe that there
are people out there
incapable of doing a
least on of those
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THE MUSIC! THE MESSAGE?
The music and the message - old, used, abused and at times underappre-
ciated words. Years back, my friend had this saying that "Hard Core is
like a phone and it's purpose is communication with others. Therefore
just like you would not want to waste time talking about a phone and
i.e. what color it has, but try to communicate something with another
person when making a phone call, you should not be wasting time talk-
ing about how cool Hard Core is, but try to get some kind of more im-
portant message across." I can't help thinking how accurate this com-
parison is and most of the times I have tried to focus on communicating
different emotions and opinions rather than limiting it to the lame de-
scriptions of what my Hard Core is and how it may be better than yours.
I think that this is a place with such a huge potential, but it feels like
many times we choose to talk about how cool this "phone" is rather
than what we can spread around by using it, how it can help us to chal-
lenge, express and develop ourselves.
I can't help also thinking how the place of lyrics in today's scene has
changed. I don't know if it's for better or worse, but I feel like the lyrics
could not even exist anymore and nobody would even notice. It does
not really feel like we care anymore for what the band has to say, bands
don't really care to say anything that would get them out of the safe
boundaries of "Fuck you, you fucking fuck!". Yes, it does express
something, but my feeling is that it became a cheap and easy to use
cliche, that most of the time is not even sincere. It's just the safest way
for the band to start today and be accepted or though of as cool. Also, I
have found myself visiting sites where I could find links to the bands
merchandise store or read about their sponsors, but hardly ever there
was anything about their message, not even mentioning section with
lyrics. Well, how many times have you seen lyrics on the site?...
I recall middle 90s where a number of bands would get heavily criti-
cized for having lyrics expressing some aggressive attitudes regarding
animal exploitation or environmental issues. Today Hard Core band can
openly sing that they wish someone to be beaten up, hurt or even dead
just because they got in their way with some personal stuff or stepped
on their toes. Nobody even says a word that this is violent or promotes
aggression. As long as it is not challenging in any way or it's not mak-
ing anybody uncomfortable with their own lives - it's alright.
Yes, Hard Core is angry and may become aggressive. I understand that
and for most part can relate to it. One of the first zines I read had an
interview where I read that if you are in Hard Core then you are angry
and if you say otherwise you are a liar. Maybe your father was beating
you up or your mother left you, but something had happened that made
you feel this way and Hard Core most likely helps you to get it out. And
that couldn't be truer. There are lots of reasons for being angry, and for
me Hard Core is the best way to express it. But I have never felt left
alone with this feeling. There were always words of encouragement and
support to deal with these emotions. Bands lyrics have been like a one
ongoing expression and sharing about life that would be opening my
eyes to many new things, challenging some old ways that I was taught
and supporting me in choices that I was about to make.
Of course the purpose of these words is not to dictate anybody what
they should write about. It's such a huge place for anybody to feel free
to express anything they wish. There is ton of great stuff going on any-
ways and you can find lots of inspiring records. Sometimes it just feels
like there is not much of a challenge or actual care for anything but our
own well-being and smashing faces of those that dare to question our
self-righteousness. People try so hard to bring back the spirit of Old
School, but sometimes I feel like we bring back only what's convenient
for us. Hoods, crews, fights and pride are more than welcome. Human
honesty, facing own faults, progressing in our lives and struggle for a
better world sound too dangerous. It's not about what's right and what's
wrong or just plain complaining about something, it's about the poten-
tial that's out there and what more can be offered. I think it's worth to
make an effort...,/?
"stick to the boundaries, made it too safe, deny my freedom, destroys the meaning.
keep parroting the part line, your empty slogans will never change a thing.
how can I kill what was never alive? the last days of titanic." The Judas Factor
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All pictures on this page courtesy of awesome
Robbie Redcheeks and they were taken during
Beyond's reunion show in
Washington DC / January 2006.
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/ have never agreed with this opinion that if you sound
metal you can 't be Hard Core. Sunrise
for me are more Hard Core than one could
imagine. They have been playing for over a
decade, and remain faithful and
supportive to their roots, even though the
sound changes. They have firmly established
foundation, but are open to
listen to others and talk
about what 's important
to them. They are
committed and try to
live by their words. They have been here
for a long time spreading their message
of taking your life back and living
in a more caring way. Sunrise is
important and I 'm glad to have
them in this issue. Unfortunately
the band decided to call it quits.
This is a very sad news for lots
of kids that grew up listening to
their music. I have interviewed
Pat, who sings for the band and is one
of the founding members. Read on! R.
"...we got our records done, we played
shows and tours and got our thing, we
communicated with people and all in all ~
we could do something we loved."
I remember interviewing you almost 10 years ago now, when Sunrise was getting ready
to record the first demo tape. I have respected you a lot for being around and sticking to
your guns, even though the band went through many changes. Recently you have an-
nounced that you are going to end things and finish playing as Sunrise. What would you
say were the most significant and memorable moments in band's history?
Meeting people and finding out we are not in this alone. Doing something real and what's
really ours. Doing things together. Learning through travelling and learning ourselves better. 1
was always surrounded by people who totally didn't have a clue what I was all about and who
mainly didn't care bout anything and finally I found my environment where 1 could feel com-
fortable with. As time went by and more people got to know Sunrise more people started to
come to our shows, mosh, dive and sing along. This is really unforgettable experience. People
sang along cuz they shared the meaning behind the lyrics. People had fun hence they stage
dove. We got some shitty shows, but most of them were really good feedback- wise and I will
always remember all of us sweating and screaming our hearts out. We were also lucky enough
to hear some words of support and appreciation, either directly from people or via mail. It was
truly amazing. Being part of the community like hardcore scene was pretty much exciting
itself. Being part of the network and working together, you know, playing shows, being inter-
viewed, reviewed and so on. Soon after we started with Sunrise 1 started to work and live on
my own and when most of my peers got old, jaded and tired way too early, 1 still felt like
teenager. Actually I still do. I remember me and our original bassist being weirdoes in high
school, you know - "these dudes neither drink nor eat meat blah blah blah" but we simply
didn't care. When most of my so called colleagues were focused on their careers and trying to
fit in into their surroundings I have been strengthening my bonds with my friends and was
busy with doing my band. All of us worked and we had to face a lot of shit every day but we
got our records done, we played shows and tours and got our thing, we communicated with
people and all in all - we could do something we loved.
I guess the main question right now what are the
reasons behind your decision about splitting up?
What are you going to miss the most about Sun-
rise? Do you think your lives will change a big
deal since you dedicated so much time to this
Well, I don't think my life has changed really since
Sunrise called it quits. It occupied every day of my
life but was part of other things I am associated
with, so I don't feel like I would miss something
really. Not playing in Sunrise doesn't mean 1 won't
see these people I have been seeing for ages every
once in a while. The band is over, as we didn't want
to carry it on. It was good moment definitely to
called it a day, as we were really at our peak and I
am afraid we couldn't go any further due to some of
ours lives decisions and getting burned out of the
others. The band is what it is - a band, which means
common effort of group of people and when some
of them are psyched and the other unmotivated it is
never going to work out in a long run. And it was
what happened to Sunrise lately. Since we were
back from the tour it slowed down and soon it
would fade away I guess, so it was much better and
painful to end it up before it would make us puke,
keeping the good memories. In my case, it worked
pretty well, I am happy with things we've done and
it felt good that Sunrise is gone. There were mo-
ments in the past that when we would split up
would probably didn't know what to do with my-
self, I was so much attached to the band and so
identified with it I couldn't stand the void. But as
said, it was a perfect time and instead of grief I feel
relief and satisfaction.
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the way I started'
to see people live their lives. It was
when I started living on my own. When
you move out of your parent's place and
disconnect from their pockets you see things in
a bit different way than when you were careless high
school kid with his only concern about going to a
show or getting this cool fanzine you've been al-
ready waiting for over the week. This is when most
of the people change their lives totally, turn them
upside down. When I started to work and pay the
bills and let 9 hours of my life be stolen from Mon-
day to Friday I wasn't like "wow, this is the shit!
didn't feel like switchin my brain off and forget all
these lyrics I knew by heart and vows I made to my-
self subconsciously. There are certain things I simply
despise and 1 don't want to turn my life into a night-
mare. I needed money to support myself but never
ever for a single moment of my life I felt close to the
world of "them". The more I had to do with so called
'adult life' I felt I didn't belong to this world. And I
don't mean being a kid in a way that you are irre-
sponsible and would like your mum to cook your
soup. It was the way that made people change so fast
made me terrified. Once bright and positive people
were turning into zombies who openly said they
hated their lives but on the other hand they felt it was
the only way it could be. It was this book "Ishmael" I
read back then, well, we all read this book like crazy
and gave to everybody on their birthdays, I was like
"read this book and you would never be the same". I
liked the idea of Quinn there: most people feel that
something is wrong with this world, that they're
being deceived, fucked big time but they don't have
the proof really... Everybody assures them, that's the
way it is, wake up, go to work, have a fast food
lunch, work hard, back home, eat dinner, watch TV,
go to sleep, work as hard so you could save some
money and once a year go for a vacation to recharge
your batteries to work harder once you are back. Is
this a joke or what? Am I supposed to like it? This is
like sleepwalking, you can walk but for what? You
walk but you don't even know where you are head-
ing to. Waking up is mostly painful and traumatic
when you realize that you wasted few years of your
life but I guess it's better late than never. I can't
remember how many times I heard people complain-
ing about this or that but when you ask they why are
they do so they would be like "Becase I have to do it,
everybody does". It only fuels my anger and discon-
tent to this world and my will to live the life I want
We started this band to bridge with people who feel
the same to make them feel there're more freaks like
them out there and to wake the others up.
Some people are so much suppressed
they don't have guts to change their lives for the better. Who is not afraid of rejection. This
world is a popularity contest and everyday is getting points so it is really hard to let go the
status you already gained. Crazy, isn't it?
On your last release you have quoted Gandhi saying "You must be the change you wish
to see in the world"... What kind of change would you like to see happening in the
world and how does it manifest in your own lives?
People got separated and are like isles, drifting around each other. I think that's the main
problem of this world and the main reason why we have so much violence, be it everyday
street violence or worldwide wars. We are disconnected from each other and from anything
else, we are not against anything really as we don't care. And we don't care because we don't
see any interest in caring. Should I really care?, That's not my business and so on, that't the
mentality of mankind. We are evolving consumers, not living creatures. Being told that we
should collect as many goodies as possible (or money at the account) instead of just expiri-
encing life, we simply do it. There is no much passion left around in this world, people who
are passionate bout their lives shine like diamonds among others. It makes me feel so good to
meet such people who do have lives and instead of talking bout their jobs, being promoted,
new car or fuck only knows what, they have beautiful lives I could listen about for ages. But
most of the people are not even able to talk about anything more indepth, just stupid small
talks. Fuck that.
I look around and I don't see so much sense of community, there is enough envy and hostil-
ity instead. This is what killing us . We cannot go along with each other, because of our egos
and lack of ability to forgive. That's why we are so easy to be fucked. Divide and conquer
politics goes really deep into the very single piece of ourselves.
The change I would love to see happening is cutting this shit I was talking above off. We
should forget bout all these petty problems, stupid shit and see ourselves more as people we
could do things together not potential enemies. I am not talking about building a mass hippie
comune. We just should look at ourselves from different point and have a better sense of
I can only speak for myself. I just try not to be prejudiced against anybody as I used to be, I
feel much better because of this. I think I finally understand that we are all so different and
I really dig it. I know that together we can do much more instead of losing time
proving who's right and who's wrong. I used to waste a good doze of time proving
how righteous I am and to prove my opponents wrong. I am more
interested into just having good life and live with good people. Once
you built something positive, you wil
attract more people, you can create
something with a
Born Free Die Free
"You let them rape your soul, put the loop on your neck.
They took it all and gave nothing back. They made you feel guilty.
They made you feel proud. Saying you're pure or filthy right to your face and loud.
Do you think you can earn to be saved? Would you like to live the life you deserve? Are you happy
with being their slave? Wanna set yourself free or end up in a grave? You let them rape your soul, put the loop on
your neck. As life takes its toll you're slowly getting wrecked. You pretend to smile. Choked under the surface. Born free,
Shackled you'll die caught up in a rat race. Do you think you can earn to be saved? Would you like to live the life you
deserve? Are you happy with being their slave? Set yourself free or end up in a grave and if you died tomorrow, what would
you do today? Would you still serve this giant with the feet made of clay? Would you take your chance to taste the real life?
Or would you spend this very last day to set the best quality last rites? Born free, die free."
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"I let myself think that things are black and white. Was led astray corrupted by my ego and pride. I let myself be fed on lies and
be deceived. 1 was the stereotype I hated to believe. 1 escaped failure. 1 lardships I endure. I let the past go 7 Am I telling ^^J
you something you don't already know? Escape failure. Escape failure. Make it through? Am I in any way different
from you? I wanna say fuck your popularity contest. Strike me off, count me out, I won't be next. _
This game you played, all of you failed. I won't look up to the heroes you bred to be -^^
worshipped and praised."
good foundation. You won't create anything good based on
envy, frustration or hatred, at least it won't last long. Forget about it.
What goes around comes around, no shit.
What would you say has been the biggest compromise for you in making deci-
sions that not necessarily go together with what your heart tells you? Do you feel
like you have to "sell out" a lot in order to live in this society?
I feel like I sleep with my enemy a lot. I am part of the machine, as 1 need money to
support myself and that's why I spend most of my day somewhere I don't belong
really. But at least I recognize what I am and what I want to be. Sometimes it's hard to
realize that life just passes like sand through hands (still marked!) and I don't have
enough time for myself to work on things T would like to do. That's my compromise
that I make to be able to support my plans. And I don't feel depressed about that. It's
still much better than not having life at all. As long as I have my beliefs and hope,
step-by-step I will get closer to my destination.
Seriously, 1 shouldn't complaint really about my life and I don't. I work because I need
money for things I love. It's not the other way. You could say that all of the things I
am involved with are just escape from everyday life to get some relief but the thing is
that this is the real world and real life and what I do everyday is like defending my
territory by any means necessary. And I don't feel I sell out at all. Selling out would
be denying what you believe not doing these things against your will. Selling out is
turning into a dick who doesn't care. You can probably write a book bout how much I
suck but the latter accusation would be kind of exaggeration, haha.
So you have just come back from your tour with Undying. How important was
this experience for you as the band and on the individual level? What did you
learn during those 3 weeks?
The tour was great. Undying peeps were awesome, we had lots of fun and good laugh.
Really good guys. I love traveling and it is indeed the time when you can learn a lot.
You learn bout yourself and the others. You learn a lot of patience and how to cooper-
ate and do things together and be just and equal in things you get from life. Simple
things like carrying the
shit, doing merch, eat-
ing, sleeping, who sits
where in the van, stupid
shit like that makes your
day or turns you feeling
down. And the best is
that you don't really
know what to expect
from the next day, who
will you meet and how
the show is going to be.
I also learnt that peeing
into the bottle is not that
easy as it seems.
You have gotten quite
a lot of response from
the, let's say, strictly
metal scene. What kind
of feedback did you
get? Was it important
for you to kind of go
across the different
underground scenes in
order to reach more
people with your mes-
For a HC band it is quite a lot I guess. It
is mostly concerned with our music and our message are
mostly kind of interesting but nobody made really fun of
us or something. It is just pretty uncommon. We didn't
really push it hard to be a part of metal scene, if it hap-
pens that's cool, as being a band rooted in HC we want
everybody to listen to our shit. We have our stand but our
intentions has never been to sing about straight edge for
straight edge kids or anythig like this. I also have nothing
against people who just like our music, that's cool with
me. Last year we played 10 shows for more metal ori-
ented crowd, which was kind of cool. Sometimes 90% of
the crowd were metalheads which was kind of weird but
response was good. We also had some good reviews,
interviews and I could say that we were quite recogniz-
able among metalheads. Anyway, the vibe and atmos-
phere of HC gig couldn't be beaten, forget about it!
As we speak a new year begins and everyone tends to
reflect on the previous 12 months... What was the
most beautiful/the most shocking thing(s) that caught
your attention in 2005?
A friend of mine texted me to let me know that there's a
chance that there could be new season of the mighty Twin
Peaks! I was psyched big time to find it out, I still really
am. Hey Mark Frost, if you read this neat fanzine - do it,
I insist! Last year was pretty cool. Hectic as always but I
had a chance to visit so many nice places (like beloved
Portugal) and met up with some cool people, watched
bunch of cool shows and had a good time. Probably I
should start bitching about election in Poland and how
terrifying was to see the how right wing took the power
over but I won't. Well, they don't make any difference,
they speak worse bullshit indeed but they suck not much
more than the ones before them.
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now about your future as far as play-
ing music, being active etc.? Is there
much of a confusion or uncertainty?
Frankly speaking I can't see myself less
busy than I was when Sunrise was
around. Well formally it is around an-
other month until we will be disbanded
after our last show on April 23rd. I work
a lot, I book shows here in Warsaw, I live
with my girlfriend, I hang out with my
friends and well... we already rehearse
with our new band. There's no confusion
at all, I am totally sure that calling it
quits was a good decision made in the
best time. No sour taste in my mouth, no
crying over spilled milk, no hard feel-
ings. There is a couple of things to do
just to close the chapter and move for-
Thank you so much for the interview
and all you did with Sunrise...
No, I thank you! Fanzines like yours
make my heart pumping blood faster. It
has the vibe and you have the heart.
Dude, both of these things are hard to
find nowadays. Even in the HC scene. I
am pretty happy that I could speak out
for Stop, Look and Listen. Keep it up.
And to all of you - never lose heart.
NEVER LOSE HEART
I don't think there are many other feelings that can be compared to the one of doing something by yourself, giving it a lot of thought or just creating it
suddenly under the influence of specific moment, working on it, developing the idea and then eventually sharing it with others often receiving feed-
back. It's a process like any other, but the way it's presented and the results of it may make it different. We type up and design pages that make up
zines, fold innumerous covers and put them with vinyls, we spend hours writing and rehearsing songs just to get it right. . . all for the sake of being
creative, expressing ourselves and sharing it with one another. In my experience it's also about having control, being inspirational, trying to make a
change and be supportive. Is this what Doing It Yourself means to you?
So how much of what we really do is from ourselves and based on mutual respect and understanding? It's kind of disappointing when trust is being
replaced by signatures on a piece of paper, that can later be used to resolve all misunderstandings. It's also disappointing when you can not talk to
those you just listened to because they are the band and you
are the audience and you will sooner bump into the bouncers
rather than a band. It's disappointing when the only way to
secure sales is by buying a few seconds of advertisement on
the screen... And it's sad when you are being ignored unless
your expression is wrapped up in the colorful and attractive
But hey, first and foremost there is this number of committed
people all over the world that will do something positive out
of dedication and care. People that communicate and share
opinions, ideas and their concerns without looking for profits.
Their words, their music and their attitude mean more than
what's just on the outside. The motivation comes from the
heart and most of the time is not necessarily paying off in a
material sense, but personal satisfaction and value of gained
experiences can be enormous. Of course you meet different
people and get screwed over at times, but to all those sincere
and dedicated I thank for inspiration and keeping this place
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Maybe it's the fact that one of
the first vinyl records I ever
could afford and purchased
was released by Crucial Re-
sponse, or the fact that there
are so many good bands on
this label, but I have always
liked CxR and decided that it
was a time for me to interview
Peter. The timing couldn 't be
better. The label currently has
released a few very good re-
cords as well as a much antici-
pated fan zine called "A Voice
Of Generation ". This latest
project should be considered a
classic very soon and I'm
happy to hear that the new
issue is being planned. I'm
also happy that this label is
still around and survived being
loyal to it's principals. I think
that 's something for all of us to
respect and admire.
I would like to thank Peter for
his time and doing this inter-
view. It was done via magical,
virtual messenger and we
started late at night and fin-
ished about 3 o'clock in the
morning. I owe huge thanks to
him for staying awake haha
and having the energy to an-
swer my questions.
I hope you will enjoy it as
much as I did !
Maybe to start with tell me what was the most difficult/the most inspiring thing that happened in your life in
Recently, that's a good one... Actually the most inspiring thing was working on the Voice Of A Generation fanzine
with my old friend Arne Haabeth. We had so much fun. We were dwelling in the past when we put the zine to-
gether. It was for me really inspiring.
Well, the most difficult one... Putting the zine together. Both of us have high standards and it was challenging. Plus
it took longer than we thought. People already send cash and it got a pain dealing with it. Of course it is understand-
able. You want to get your zine as fast as possible.
Could you tell me more about the idea behind the zine and why did you decide not to charge a fixed price for
it but accept donations? That's very punk I think...
Of course it is! Minor Threat is punk, right?!
More than anything else probably, Dischord as a label and attitude is one of the most punk things around in
Dischord is one of the most inspiring things in punk rock. Till today! They still hold true to their initial ideas. I'm
not too keen on the music they put out the last couple of years, but the ideals are still authentic and honest! Well the
idea of the donation: People should realize the initial idea of hardcore / punk and give it a bit more thought. It's
more than music (referring to Verbal Assault) It was really interesting how people reacted. Some got the idea pretty
quickly, they thought it's cool. While others were really confused about it. They asked for a fix price.
Are you trying to promote certain kind of attitude in the punk/hardcore scene with your zine? What are
those initial ideas of hc/punk you mentioned earlier ?
Yes, start to think again and show respect to other people and ideas! The initial idea was when hardcore got really
underground in the early eighties is that you can do everything yourself, no matter what. Nowadays hardcore labels
are operating like major labels. It's hilarious. I just want to share fun and that everybody is equal. There are so
many things you can rebel against. In the early eighties we had Reagan, now we have Bush. What's the difference?!
We don't care? Or we care but it does not sell as good as the stuff that's not socially involved?
Let's put it that way: hardcore became an old thing and it's time question certain things again like in the eighties.
So do you think it is possible to get to the bigger crowd with our message without operating in a slightly more
major labels way ?
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Yes, I think it's possible. Of course not with a label like Crucial Response which is really small.
But labels like Dischord have a lot of power. For example the Nike thing... The company was
forced to take back the campaign.
Yeah, I thought that it was really powerful if Nike had to take a notice of Dischord and all
the people that showed support by writing complaints and letters....
I think it's cool. I wouldn't condemn bands switching to major labels per se but the thing about
hardcore is to go up to bands before and after a show. There're no barriers here and people
should realize these things again.
Would you be disappointed if any of bands from CxR went to the major label if they were
offered a contract?
It just depends but that's a difficult question. I just want to support the initial idea of hardcore. I
grew up with all these ideals. I love labels like X-Claim, Dischord, Touch & Go. They showed
it's possible to have an impact on people. You can run a show by yourself, even you can create
your press, record label. . .
So is this how Crucial Response started? Let's go back to 1989 and tell me how the idea
began, what were your plans and your motivations....
Well, it started with my friend Andreas Griiter and Georg Opora. Both helped me with the label
in the beginning. The plan was to create a hardcore label. We all were into the idea of pushing
the idea of straight edge and putting a message across. We just felt it's possible to have a label
like Dischord with a total integrity (not that I think you can compare Crucial Response with a
label like Dischord). But we got a lot of inspiration from a label like Dischord.
Youth Of Today came over in early 89 and that was of course the extra push. Youth Of Today
was amazing, one of the best bands I ever saw. We just wanted to give the scene a positive mes-
sage! At most of the shows we had conflicts with drunken punks who had a problem when we
X'ed up at shows.
Did you feel like there was a need for a strictly SxE label? Were there any other SxE labels
around that you got support and advice from?
Well, that was the plan in the beginning. We put out most bands who were into the straight edge
message. We haven't gotten to much advice from people or labels directly. We thought if they
can do it, we can do it as well. I found two articles in fanzines how to press records and that's
how it started. Revelation Records was a major influence as well.
We just got inspired by those examples. And hey, if they can do it we can do it as well.
Could you tell me please what were the first 5 CxY releases? Is there any reason why they
are not included in the discography that's on your site?
Because I started Anti-Schlelski Records in 87 and in 89 I switched the name to Crucial Re-
sponse. I still want to add those releases to the discography on the website. The first press of the
Profound 7" was released under Anti-Schelski, the other pressings of the Profound were put out
under Crucial Response when 1 switched the name.
So basically there were SxE bands around in Germany/Holland but there was no SxE label
that would release their music ?
In the beginning not too many. Profound was around, Betray started pretty soon after.
The scene changed a lot esp. when Youth Of Today came over.
In our area we started with like 3 people and short after that more and more people
became straight edge.
In Holland you had Larm, they were the first straight edge band. They broke up around 88 I
But straight edge got pretty much popular after Youth Of Today came over.
Socialism became a pretty big part of the European SxE scene in early 90tees. How kids
got involved in it and introduced these left wing ideas into the movement?
Because ManLiftingBanner was a pretty influential band (two people from MLB played in Larm
before). In '89 you had the wall coming down and you could read in every newspaper the down-
fall of Socialism. Like with every young kids they questioned those things and esp. in the hard-
core scene. Band like Larm, Seein' Red and ManLiftingBanner made people more aware of those
things. I think that's why it became an issue in the early nineties. Feeding the Fire was also a big
part of it and somewhat Spawn. It just evolved.
Did your label get any negative feedback after releasing and supporting bands like Man
Lifting Banner that had strong socialist/communist message?
The band and I got some negative feedback here and there. X-Mist Records (a German label)
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was made such a big issue about, also Zap magazine gave us some shit. X-Mist made up fliers to
spread at shows.
To boycott CxR or MLB?
Well, they gave us some shit, not really boycott but it was pretty tough. We got into some argu-
ments at shows but then it helped to establish a band like ManLiftingBaner. They got their mes-
Did/do you yourself support socialists or any other political group?
I was never part of a party but I was supporting "Bund Sozialister Arbeiter". I was going to their
meetings and was selling their newspaper. A friend of mine got really heavy into it for a while.
Do you miss those times and the period when the label was just picking up? What was the
best about those years?
It depends. Things were much easier and fun. You had to do a lot more grassroots work to start
a label. Nowadays with the internet it seems much easier to get a band name around when it's
hyped up on message boards.
Does it bother you that people may judge or see your label as the one that promotes only
the classic old school/Hard Core bands? Would you ever consider releasing a heavier
sounding record with some i.e. metal influences?
Actually I did release much heavier bands the last couple of years. It evolved naturally with
bands like No Denial, True Blue and Strike First. I just want to support bands whom I've been
friends with. For example after Mainstrike Big started No Denial which had a lot more Cro-
Mags influence in their music. But it doesn't bother me at all... Crucial Response will remain a
What is the most valuable thing you have learnt through your involvement in the hard
To question yourself and I learned a lot about who is your friend and who is not. For example
doing the zine was also a challenge for myself in a lot of ways. Also as I referred already above:
it's important to stick to your goals and put a message across. Also I'm learning a lot when
things getting rougher. It's like a test but that is life in general... I guess.
Do you think of CxR as an important part of European SxE history? I personally really
can't imagine European Hard Core scene being what it is, without Crucial Response Re-
Oh thanks. But European hardcore was around before Crucial Response. You had a lot of good
bands like Negazione, Raw Power, Indegsti, Laim, Heresy, Ripcord...
I meant more your influence in the 90es...
For me it is a privilege putting out bands. I am really thankful that I got the chance to release so
many good bands.
I have to thank the bands for the trust and friendship without them Crucial Response wouldn't
Where would you like to see CxR going? Is it easy for you to have this friendship and trust
with the new bands that are around (in order to keep releasing records) like you had with
That's really hard actually and that's the reason I will release less and less bands. I think it's time
to go back into the unknown. Today there are a lot of new labels that will carry the torch. As for
Mainstrike I worked really close with them for more than 5 years. I think that's not possible
anymore. It was a lot of fun.
What is your understanding of DIY and do you ever compromise it when working on run-
ning CxR or doing a zine?
Like I mentioned above, you can create your own scene apart form mainstream society and mu-
sic. In that sense I haven't compromised at all. Puh, probably I made mistakes but I tried to stick
to DIY ethics.
it is a privilege putting out bands. I am really thankful
I got the chance to release so many good bands."
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What are your most favorite hard core records (not necessarily re-
leased by CxR but other labels as well) and how did they change
your life ?
"We are not in this alone" LP. When I heard this LP I became vegetar-
SSD "The kids will have their say". You can run your own hardcore
MDC and Dead Kennedys just for
being politically outspoken.
Also Larm played an important role
in my life because they spoke sin-
cere about socialism. Larm was the
first European band who had an
impact on me. Those guys were
also doing Definite Choice fanzine
which was really challenging and
And AC/DC of course because they
know how to rock!
Mai la definitely ! Can you imag-
ine the day you stop releasing
records and your life without
Why not? But as long as friends
asking me about putting out a record I will continue with it.
It's been such a big part of your life, that it would be a big change for
you, don't you think?
I have a lot of other interest actually but I really love to run the label. For
me it's a lot of fun. I used to get sick like 2 or 3 years ago but lately I
have so much fun. Like I said doing the zine was challenging for myself
and I feel really good about the Birds Of A Feather 7".
Do you hope to make a difference in the scene with A Voice Of Gen-
eration and hard core you write about in this zine?
No idea, we got some really good
feedbacks so far. Hopefully we can do
at least 3 or 4 issues. We have so much
plans and ideas. For example in num-
ber 3 or 4 I want to have a 7" compila-
tion coming with the zine. For number
two, we will have planned another
project 7" like in the first issue but it is
still in the early stages.
So what would you say has been the
most challenging for you personally
when working on your zine?
Just to challenge myself!
And that's again the most punk
thing you could do haha! Thank you
so much for doing this interview ! I
think we have come to a full circle by starting this interview with
talking about the zine and ending it with the zine as well....
You are welcome. Thanks for the interview. I have to thank, the inter-
view was really inspiring and interesting!
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STOP, LOOK fe. LISTEN # 3 WINTER/SPRING 2006
It was around 1990 when I went to the first Punk
show, of course after long hours of convincing
my mother that I'll not get killed and finish
homework before I leave. Upstairs, on the first
floor, in the local ballroom building played a few
local bands with kids going nuts. The equipment
sucked, dudes managing vocal duties were strug-
gling with microphones, screaming their guts off
so people would be able to understand some-
thing. Still, that was a really awesome experi-
ence and from there it went really quickly. I got a
number of tapes of bands from my area, and
most of them really influenced me and the way I
was beginning to look at the world. Those tapes
were mostly recorded by bands in their base-
ments or garages on a simple tape recorder sit-
ting on the floor in the middle of their practice
space. You can imagine that the quality wasn '?...
the best, shall we say? But still, those bands
managed to create something special that I took
into my life. I think we all have such recordings
in our lives, that some would consider as boring
or weak but we love to bits... no matter what
anybody else says.
I would like to believe that among the stuff that
you can read about on these pages and anywhere
else, there are records that may cause in people
who listen to them, strong emotions or even may
become something of a big inspiration in their
lives. These records may do it, or they may not...
but I'm not going to criticize someone for what
they are doing because they don 't sound Core
enough, they are not being hyped or nobody
knows about them therefore it won 't sell. I'm far
from kissing up either and will point out my
dislikes or if something strikes me in a negative
way. But I 'm just saying that everything honest
and expressive has a potential to become an
important record in somebody's life and there-
fore I try to appreciate evetyone 's effort.
Maybe I'm naive enough to believe that for
some kid in a small town who picks up a sincere
and energetic record (even if not the best qual-
ity), this kid may have the best time ever and
spend all the evenings listening to it, mixing
excitement with inspiration. I know that this is
possible, as once I was that kid and in many
ways still hope that I am...R.
It's not my thing to contact labels and ask for
promo materials. I review mostly stuff that I have
bought myself in recent months, but there were
also some records sent in. Thank you to everyone
who mailed their stuff! If you come across this
zine and would like to mail your releases you
should know that I'm not the best at reviewing
music haha. Also please do not send me any
promotional copies or even worse, ask me for
email address so your record company can send
me your material in mp3 form with a request for
pre-release review. I'm not really into it as well
as I don 't interview bands when label asks me to
arrange it for promotional purposes. As crazy as
it may sound these things has really been hap-
pening causing panic attacks in my little unpro-
fessional world. All I'm interested in are music,
lyrics and artwork on original copy of band 's
record. That's all I wanna write about. And if
you can throw in a little note saying who, when
and why then that would be awesome.
Anchors Away - "Nuckin' Futs" CD (Significant Records)
Dudes out of Florida! Before I have played the actual CD I had a closer look at the insert. Joking
title, cool drawing on the cover presenting ocean, ships, pirates etc. This funny stuff maybe a bit
misleading as Anchors Away plays some traditional Hard Core stuff with some pretty pissed off
lyrics. Although nothing revolutionary, it's all very well arranged and played. Their songs have
lots of interesting moments so it's not boring. As far as words they deal mostly with their disap-
pointments, not listening to people's bullshit etc. If that's their first recording it's pretty well
www. signficantrecords. com
anchor saw aypunk@fiotmail. com
Blacklisted - "The Beat Goes On" LP (Reflections Records)
They were a strong band right from the start, or at least from when I heard their demo I thought
they were really amazing. There is a natural progression throughout all their records that followed,
including "The Beat Goes On" that is truly amazing. Starting with the first seconds of "Tourist"
you know that Blacklisted play with a full force and expression. I think that the main message
behind the this record is to live fully as everything constantly changes, people that were close are
gone, there are lots of obstacles on the way but we should never stop and keep carrying on with
our lives. Blacklisted is really one of these bands that have never disappointed me with any of their
recordings and they always manage to create something interesting. I just regret I had not been
able to get into their show and see how powerful this stuff comes out live.
www. blacklistedhardcore. com
www. deathwishinc. com
www. reflectionsrecords. com
Break It Up - "No Sides" LP (Dead & Gone Records)
This LP isn't the newest as it came out last year, but I need to mention it. This debut full length
from Break It Up had been
really widely anticipated and it
came out really good! There
I are some experienced members
" py .-?■ in the band's line up and you
\ j I can hear that they know how to
play their Hard Core and keep
your attention all the way. The
formula is straight forward:
about 2 minute songs, nice
guitar work with solos, some
slower parts and back ups.
That's the way it's suppose to
be played and Break It Up has
1 no problems with it, creating
J something interesting and their
own. If you haven't got it already, check it out! Like they say: quality Hard Core!
www. deadandgonerecordings. com
www. breakitup. tk
Chaos Days - Demo 2005 CD-R
Well, it's not like there is some kind of revival going on but in recent months I have come across a
number of bands that play their Hard Core with melody. Here is another band that celebrates HC
in the vein of Lifetime, early Saves The Days or Siren (especially vocals and remind me of this
last one). Vocals are obviously more sung than screamed, and dude on microphone manages it
very well getting help from back ups once in a while. Lyrics deal with a bunch of stuff starting
from friendships, moving forward in life and finishing with reflections on religion. It's pretty cool!
Chaos Days could be ruling your stereo.
www. my space, com/chaosdays
chaos day s@hotmail. com
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Dark Day Dungeon - "By Blood Undone" CD (Let It
This is something that I don't listen to everyday but like
a lot every now and then. Very metallic, very heavy with
some mosh parts and I guess Swedish bands would be an
inspiration here. You can hear from the very beginning
that these guys know exactly what they want to achieve
and how to do it. The music and vocals are very well
written and arranged. It's good to read lyrics that actu-
ally sound real and express more personal feelings of
facing different painful situations, rather than some mys-
terious trips into the land of the guy with 666 and horns
on his head. Oh, and art work was done by Dave Quig-
gle himself and looks pretty cool. If you like metallic
sounds this is of a very high quality.
www. darkdaydungeon. com
www. letitburnrecords. com
Eye Of Judgment - "The War Has Begun" EP
(New Eden Records)
It'd good to see New Eden growing as a label and releas-
ing more stuff. Eye Of Judgment impressed me with
their demo so I was really looking forward to checking
out their first release. And this stuff does not differ much
as far as message that is still the same: humanity is like a
sickness and will have to pay for its crimes. No doubt
about it and the band expresses it very strongly. I may
not agree with all the lyrics and what they represent, and
I hope that their role is more of symbolic nature that is
suppose to just open the eyes of those reading them. But
the most important thing is that there are still people
who deeply care for other suffering living beings, and
try to do something about it. The amount of witnessed
pain and injustice probably causes the most desperate
emotions and Eye Of Judgment expresses it through
their words and music. "Try to silence their screams, but
there will always be those who fight and are willing to
give it all to secure the future of animal rights". Vegan
Straight Edge is still alive and spreading the threatening
www. myspace. com/eyeofjudgement
www. newedenrecords. com
Forced March - Six Songs Demo CD-R
That's not the most important thing but I think that this
recording would sound whole lot better if guitar was
recorded louder because it gets lost in the fury of their
songs. Yes, these guys are angry and they express it in
their heavy and crusty Core they play, and they do it
pretty well. Lyrically it's about various social diseases
and how to get your life back. Forced March supports
DIY approach within the Hard Core Punk scene which is
always good and also have an X in their address, so I
assume they are SxE. This is a young band and has mes-
sage they want to spread, I'm looking forward hearing
recordings from some new sessions!
www. myspace. com/forcedxmarch
Hands Down Now - Demo 2005 Tape (Crucial Attack)
Fast and passionate Hard Core from the Netherlands!
They really have a lot of great stuff going on there.
Hands Down Now are I think relatively new band, but
play very good Hard Core with cool lyrics written from
more personal perspective, but describing life and what
we are being faced with every day. Musically it's fast
and straight forward, something probably along the lines
of Floorpunch, but once again don't trust my compres-
sions and check them out for yourself! These 6 songs
make me want more which means this demo has done
it's job and it's time to record some more!
www. myspace. com/hdownnow
You Choke - S/T CD (One Percent Records)
This band started from the ashes of Holding On, which
may be useful information if you had known them. Well,
some of the lyrics are not my cup of tea, but overall this
is really good! Music is grabbing attention: pretty heavy
but fast, some breakdowns and guitar solos that rip
through songs. You can hear that these dudes know how
to play their Hard Core and do it well not letting you get
bored when listening to their debut CD. "God save our
sons and daughters as we lead them to the slaughter.
Yellow ribbons and parades, hide the caskets draped
with flags, still this won 't be won". There is some darker
feeling to this stuff that I can't explain... Maybe it's this
art work together with metallic riffs on this material, I
don't know. But this certainly adds flavor to Hope You
www. myspace. com/hopeyouchokempls
www. onepercentrecords. com
Invade - Demo 2006 CD
"In the center of all that is grey and unsure, confused
and mislead - I'm just another man with another set of
ideas and a pen in hand". When someone writes such
fucking good lyrics how can you not become interested?
I came across Invade following a link on one of the
message boards and when I finally checked their profile
I was seriously impressed. They play some really heavy
Hard Core with metal influences, with very intelligent
and politically/socially charged lyrics. Music is well
arranged and there are melodies and other elements that
make their songs interesting. I really love the way lyrics
are written, the style is cool and they will give you
plenty to think about. They must be mostly inspired by
living in such a country like the US where lies and ha-
tred wrapped in patriotism and religion are being shoved
in your face every day. Also they are sending their re-
cord for donations or even free since the band has been
formed to spread music and ideas, not to make money. If
you are looking for some new bands that care a great
deal for the world they live in, they desire change and
want to be sincere about what are they doing - I strongly
recommend you give Invade a chance! "I can only
promise to be human and try my best to be aware ". Next
issue, expect interview with Invade!
www. myspace. com/invade
I Stand Alone-Demo CD-R
X above the "I" in the band's name might be suggesting
that they are Straight Edge. Anyway I Stand Alone plays
very good melodic Hard Core/Punk and this demo really
gets my hopes up high. From the pictures in the insert I
gather that band members have been around for a while
now so I'm sure they know their trade well. And you can
really hear it listening to these 4 songs: there is a mel-
ody, again very good vocals that go perfectly with the
music and everything in mid and faster tempos. I got the
news that they are going to release their first EP together
with a band called Handgun Bravado that has ex-Dag
Nasty members! So now you know what's among their
inspirations haha! I recommend this if you like melodic
and energetic HC/Punk with some good sounding vo-
cals! This really makes my day brighter!
www. istandalone. co.uk
Last Item - "Are You Really Down?" EP
Finally a follow up to their awesome demo! 6 songs of
really HARD Core music with some pretty pissed off
lyrics. Their sound has improved and it's all just gone
forward which makes this EP really good! Last Item is
not typical Old School, as there are a lot of NYHC influ-
ences and they have been compared to Judge, which
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wouldn't be far from the truth. I like it a lot, and I know that the band has
recorded some new stuff already and currently is looking for a label that
would be interested to release it. "Hypothetically committed, internally
frustrated. I just wonder if you have anything to say apart from analyzing
other's lives...". These songs are really hard hitting! Awesome Hard
Core band on a small label that puts out releases out of love for Hard
Core - I don't need more than that.
www. theessencehc. com
www. my space, com/lastitem
New Morality - "No Future" Tape (Light The Fuse)
Light The Fuse is not only one of the best European Hard Core festivals,
but has become as well a record label! New Morality plays stuff inspired
by NYHC in my ears, and I like their songs, sometimes only wish they
picked up a little bit to give it even more power. But their mid-tempo
style still comes out really good, and I'd like to hear it live. Lyrics are
rather personal and have more "I" than "You", which is always good to
hear. "Looking back now I realize, pointed my finger in the wrong way.
Blinded by my anger now I regret remains. Wish I did it different with
you and me". This band has really big potential and I'm really curious
about their future recordings!
www. lightthefuse. nl
Nothing Done - "Powertrip" LP (Not Just Words Records)
Their EP was really good, and I think all the copies sold out very fast.
This LP is even better and they recorded really impressive stuff here! 12
songs in 1 5 minutes - you get the idea. Fast Hard Core Punk with some
cool chaotic moments, that remind me of Black Flag but that's probably
not most accurate comparison. Their songs are really tight with good
riffing, some cool bass lines and overall very energetic. They definitely
know their instruments well, and know how to use them to write some
awesome tunes! Lyrically they deal mostly with being misunderstood,
fakers in the scene etc. and dude on vocals screams it out with conviction
so I guess it's all based on their experiences. "I'm in control'. I'm in con-
troll I'm in control of my life!". Oh yes, and opening intro to the first
song on the record is one of the best that I heard in along time, perfectly
organized chaos haha. Absolute power!
www. njwrecords. com
www. nothingdone. tk
Sirens - "Calling" CD (Let It Burn Records/Poison Free Records)
I like this a lot actu-
ally! I guess 10 years
ago they might have
been labeled as Hard
Core with some Emo
influences (I mean
the real deal and not
this poppy crap you
hear nowadays), but I
find it hard to de-
scribe exactly what
exactly Sirens sound
like. They play
straight forward Hard
Core with some great
melody that makes
them really stand out
in my opinion. This
CD has 6 songs on it
which guarantees that
you will get enough
for your enjoyment
and not too much to
stop appreciating it.
The lyrics are all
personal about strug-
gles and finding some
freedom and fulfill-
ment in our lives. It's
worth to mention that
people involved in
Sirens have been around for a quite a long time so they know what they
are dedicated to. Really good stuff and I recommend this if you are look-
ing for something deeply rooted in Hard Core with emotion and lots of
www. sir ensealling, com
www. letitburnrecords. com
Turn The Screw— "S/T" EP (Not Just Words)
I heard their demo tapes, and there is a very visible progression between
the first and second sessions they put out. These guys are pretty young as
I gather from the photos, but already play good stuff. It's all influenced
by Boston stuff, equally old and new bands and done pretty good. It's
angry, fast with some slower parts and overall it's a good piece of vinyl.
"Every time you come up to me I know it's to tell me how much every-
thing sucks and how you hate the things we do. Learn to live with it ,
cause things won 't get better unless you start acting and thinkong an-
other way". Not Just Words just keeps not only supporting local scene,
but also does not stop releasing decent stuff!
www. njwrecords. com
Wasted Time - S/T EP (Grave Mistake Records)
They start with a "Shameless" known from their demo and don't fucking
stop going through another seven songs of fast and angry Hard Core.
This EP is one of the best I have heard recently and have no doubts to
recommend it. I have gotten totally into them just hearing first recordings
that present some awesome song-writing as well as conscious lyrics. I'm
still very much amazed by how good their lyrics are, starting with the
way they are written, how much they contain, and what they express.
This first proper release does not change my opinion that Wasted Time is
one of the best bands that have come to be alive last year. "Arrogant
patriots and maniacs in power will bring this world to it's final hours.
From greedy hearts and corrupt minds. So much to destroy and not
enough time". I can't also help mentioning that the band already writes
material for another record! Well done also Grave Mistake for putting
out another great piece of wax!
Enough said, give it a try!
Uhm, that's all for now
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"Living Graves" by George (Bernard Shaw
U( We are the living graves
of murdered beasts,
Slaughtered to satisfy our appetites.
We never pause to wonder at our feasts,
If animals, li£e men,
can possibly have rights.
We pray on Sundays that
we may have light,
To guide our footsteps on
the path we tread.
we do not want to fight -
The thought of it now
fills our hearts with dread,
find yet - we gorge ourselves
upon the dead.
Like carrion crows
we live and feed on meat,
Regardless of the suffering
andthepainwe cause 6y doing so,
if thus we treat
defenceless animals for sport or gain,
how can we hope
in this world to attain,
the PEACE we say
we are so anxious for.
We pray for it o 'er
hecatombs of slain,
to §od, while outraging
the moral law,
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